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Gold Still Looking Really Sick...
TBI ^ | 9-19-2011 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 09/19/2011 11:16:36 AM PDT by blam

Gold Still Looking Really Sick...

Joe Weisenthal
Sep. 19, 2011, 1:42 PM

It just keeps getting worse today, not benefiting from the aggressive nervous selling in every market around the world.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commodities; gold; investing; markets
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To: OB1kNOb
I guess what is surprising me is why would investors flee from the euro into dollars, causing gold/silver price to tumble, when both euro and dollar holders should be fleeing into gold/silver. To call the dollar a safe haven at this point boggles my little peanut brain.

Easy, flee from euros into dollars, tumble gold prices, buy gold with the dollars, save money/get more gold.

41 posted on 09/19/2011 12:46:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: tet68

During my 20 years in the market, I have been a superb bellwether of contrarian investing. Anytime I purchase an asset, it proceeds to fall precipitously, usually within minutes. And the only time my assets actually increase in price, is right after I sell them.

So beware all: I have of late been seriously considering adding gold to my portfolio. I’ll let you know when I do, so you all can go short.


42 posted on 09/19/2011 12:47:37 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Zakeet

I’m not really an expert on this but I see it this way:

In the US, everything is valued in dollars. So when both the markets AND commodities are falling in price, I figure we are seeing an increase in the perceived value of the dollar. People are going into cash. When the market is up and metals are down, or vice-versa, then I see it as more complicated.


43 posted on 09/19/2011 12:48:57 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Comparative Advantage
The people that are hurt are the ones buying it as a short term investment strategy. I've never sold an ounce of precious metals since the one Krugerrand I sold back in the early 80's for the $250 range. For me it is ALL long term.
44 posted on 09/19/2011 12:52:18 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: blam
From ~$1400 January 1, 2001 to ~$1800 today.

I'd say 28% is a pretty good return.

45 posted on 09/19/2011 12:52:50 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Watch what people DO, not what they say.)
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To: wolfman23601
About 3 months ago, he started talking about his gold investments. I give it 9 months before the bottom falls out.

Keep dreaming. When all of those Cash for Gold places that are all over the place close down? THAT's when you rethink your position.

46 posted on 09/19/2011 12:56:41 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Watch what people DO, not what they say.)
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To: wolfman23601
About 3 months ago, he started talking about his gold investments. I give it 9 months before the bottom falls out.

Keep dreaming. When all of those Cash for Gold places that are all over the place close down? THAT's when you rethink your position.

47 posted on 09/19/2011 12:56:41 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Watch what people DO, not what they say.)
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To: blam

Here’s to hoping oil catches Ebola.


48 posted on 09/19/2011 1:16:27 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: Centurion2000

Or, when the last few gold teeth in America have been pawned. :)


49 posted on 09/19/2011 1:21:15 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Centurion2000

When the cash for gold places close down, it will be way too late... kind of like the “We buy ugly houses” billboards, which lingered into 2009. Go ahead and put your eggs in one basket, but remember, the elitists on Wall Street with the political connections always wind up on top.


50 posted on 09/19/2011 1:21:31 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: cuban leaf

For many, PMs are long-term insurance that may or may not ever be used.


51 posted on 09/19/2011 1:26:04 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage

—For many, PMs are long-term insurance that may or may not ever be used.—

Yep. Sadly, I have a suspicion I will use it though.


52 posted on 09/19/2011 1:29:21 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: blam

Looks like a buying opportunity to me. I guess it is all in how we look at it.


53 posted on 09/19/2011 1:29:36 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Centurion2000

When the cash for gold places close down, it will be way too late... kind of like the “We buy ugly houses” billboards, which lingered into 2009. Go ahead and put your eggs in one basket, but remember, the elitists on Wall Street with the political connections always wind up on top.


54 posted on 09/19/2011 1:31:29 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

Probably only a few PM collectors “put all of their eggs in one basket.” That would be foolish.


55 posted on 09/19/2011 1:34:22 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Zakeet
Over $1.2 trillion was converted from Euros into Dollars and flew across the Atlantic this weekend alone.

Dollars which, I understand, the Fed created out of thin air. When the dust settles and they convert from euros to dollars, what happens to the newly created "money"? Disappear or go into circulation? I bet on the latter and will hang on to gold.

56 posted on 09/19/2011 1:53:54 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: OB1kNOb; cuban leaf
I guess what is surprising me is why would investors flee from the euro into dollars ... To call the dollar a safe haven at this point boggles my little peanut brain.

"Safe haven" is somewhat of a relative term. It is a safer haven than the Euro, but that's not saying much.

Both euro and dollar holders should be fleeing into gold/silver.

They are. That's why both metals are up so much over the past several years and why both the fundamental and technical indicators are still so strong.

There are problems associated with buying the physical metal - including transport, storage, insurance and finding the it (bullion is in backwardation at the present time). The annual market is small - about $40 billion for silver and about $400 billion for gold - so it is difficult to buy very much without sending the price into orbit. There is a long lead time to lay in metals.

Paper bullion (e.g. the GLD and SLV ETF's) should be avoided at all costs, as should the Comex (almost no physical backing any of them).

Bottom line: the dollar is about the only alternative.

57 posted on 09/19/2011 2:16:53 PM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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To: agere_contra

Well put.


58 posted on 09/19/2011 2:17:27 PM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Something is going on that will explain the drop.

The momentum of the dollar pig has kept it in motion as the ground has fallen away. There are those who think it is flying. The real outcome is not in doubt. The time of that outcome is.

59 posted on 09/19/2011 2:20:53 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Zakeet
Bottom line: the dollar is about the only alternative.

A frying pan and a fire came to my mind when I read this.

60 posted on 09/19/2011 2:27:00 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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