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This is why we fought the American Revolution, in large part to ESCAPE religious tyranny which prohibited free worship.

A violation of the First Amendment if there ever was one.

1 posted on 09/19/2011 11:04:58 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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Did they try to get a permit and were denied for specious reasons?

Are the permits expensive?

If they didn't bother trying and are whining now, they are exactly the sort of blight on the public face of Christianity that we need to avoid. What about being hospitable to your neighbors as well as visitors to your home? If they can't show this is specifically targeted against Christians then they ought to be apologizing for the disruption and annoyance they've caused.

2 posted on 09/19/2011 11:09:16 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Proud to be a bitter, clinging barbarian hobbit!)
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When it comes time to donate to their legal defense fund, I don’t think they will have any trouble getting donors.


3 posted on 09/19/2011 11:11:59 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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Tell them its a Bible Study for illegals.

They’ll wave the permit, fines and even find a program to fund the study.

Probably provide a New 2012 Passenger Van , with insurance and maintenance, free gas.


6 posted on 09/19/2011 11:13:55 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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I’ll probably be in the minority here, but I don’t see anything wrong with that law. When I read the headline, I imagined a study group of 5-8 people and was ready to be outraged. But if my neighbor was having regular functions that brought 20-50 people (for any reason) to his house, I’d be upset because that would negatively affect the use and enjoyment of my property. (And I’m not a curmudgeon. When my neighbors have had parties - even the teen children - we’ve offered the use of our property for parking for their guests. But that’s only once a year or so - not twice weekly.)


7 posted on 09/19/2011 11:13:57 AM PDT by Kipp
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Regular gatherings of 3 or more people?

Violates the right of people to gather as they wish.

A birthday party?

A large family?

Just how much control does the state or Federal government think they can ram down our throats?????

Time to check your ammo?


12 posted on 09/19/2011 11:16:58 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Just sounds like old fashioned zoning to me. Bringing dozens of people over multiple times a week does impose costs on neighbors. If you want to start a church, buy a couple acres in a commercial area.


19 posted on 09/19/2011 11:22:33 AM PDT by Rippin
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"This is why we fought the American Revolution"

We didn't fight anything.

Nor will we.

Brave men, real men, long ago fought.

20 posted on 09/19/2011 11:22:45 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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What about everybody else’s rights?

San Juan Capistrano is an old, densely populated city with narrow streets. I guarantee they’re creating parking and traffic havoc.

Twice-weekly meetings with upwards of fifty people is not just having some friends over. They’re running a church in a residential neighborhood. Period. And it shouldn’t be allowed.

A church colonized in a house on a residential street near me, and it was a disaster for the poor people on the adjacent streets. The court confiscated the value of their homes and quality of life when they ruled that the church could stay, contrary to zoning laws because, well, Freedom of Religion.

Your next-door neighbor can’t open a Starbucks in their garage for obvious reasons. Why should they be allowed to operate a church?


24 posted on 09/19/2011 11:27:09 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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This is ridiculous. I used to go to the Old Mission for school, and home bible studies are NOT against the law. This is sickening.


26 posted on 09/19/2011 11:27:39 AM PDT by Karliner ("If we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, Obama would want to pal around with us, wouldn't he?")
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We were among the founding members of a small church. It was in a small retirement community on the Texas coast. We were meeting in the garage next door to our house. Many of our members walked to services and a few drove. It was on a cul de sac with a vacant lot (we owned it) where people could park. A neighbor filed suit against us claiming it was not in the deed restrictions and a judge agreed. We moved to the only public building on the island a small city court house. The man who brought the suit later killed himself, I never learned any details and don't know if it had anything to do with his action against the church.
32 posted on 09/19/2011 11:31:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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Already posted, and without CAPS. California City Fines Couple for Holding Bible Study in Their Home
33 posted on 09/19/2011 11:31:42 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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This is probably why.

Stephanie hosts a Wednesday Bible study that draws about 20 attendees, and Chuck holds a Sunday service that gets about 50.

If it weren’t weekly it probably wouldn’t be so bad.


42 posted on 09/19/2011 11:39:42 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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“How dare they tell us we can’t have whatever we want in our home”

They’re called zoning laws. If you want to change them, fight them. Till then, ignorance is no excuse.


48 posted on 09/19/2011 11:42:48 AM PDT by Pessimist
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According to the Dispatch, the Fromms live in a neighborhood with large homes and have a corral, barn, pool and huge back lawn on their property, so parking and noise aren’t a problem.

Really? Your'e sure? Seems they would need a place for 20 cars on their property, for that to be so. Even then, I am sure they are not zoned for a church.

Believe the underlying problem is parking. I know of some people who have 3 parking passes that they can hand out. That is it. Other people have a jar that passes are kept for special events. Different jurisdictions different rules.

58 posted on 09/19/2011 11:48:43 AM PDT by NathanR
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According to the Dispatch, the Fromms live in a neighborhood with large homes and have a corral, barn, pool and huge back lawn on their property, so parking and noise aren’t a problem.

Really? Your'e sure? Seems they would need a place for 20 cars on their property, for that to be so. Even then, I am sure they are not zoned for a church.

Believe the underlying problem is parking. I know of some people who have 3 parking passes that they can hand out. That is it. Other people have a jar that passes are kept for special events. Different jurisdictions different rules.

59 posted on 09/19/2011 11:48:55 AM PDT by NathanR
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62 posted on 09/19/2011 11:50:50 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- Twitter @KingCorey_Com)
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Just hide the Bibles in Koran covers. No problem.


80 posted on 09/19/2011 12:02:05 PM PDT by all the best
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Madison Ave, NYC seems to have a different Code

/sarc

98 posted on 09/19/2011 12:11:12 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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You can’t tax religion... a ninth grader with google could find Murdock v PA is 45 seconds...

Just write up a notice and demand that the city desist or face a 5 million dollar penalty for each incident and have it served to them.


108 posted on 09/19/2011 12:15:33 PM PDT by djf (Buncha sheep: A flock.. Buncha cows: A herd.. Buncha fish: A school.. Buncha baboons: A Congress..)
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Pay them off, in 150 grains in JHPs, one at a time.


118 posted on 09/19/2011 12:25:20 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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