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To: ponygirl
I'm caught on this one. I usually speak out against hippy dippies and their protests, but in this instance... I dunno if I think they're nuts, or if I should be there too? I mean, the banks and the Gubmint did cause this financial fiasco, and I am pissed off about it, so... Somebody talk some sense to me please...
8 posted on 09/18/2011 10:09:07 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV))
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To: Mathews
"Somebody talk some sense to me please"

Pay your bills on time as you promised.


24 posted on 09/18/2011 10:58:47 AM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: Mathews
They need to move this protest to the front steps of Barney Frank's office and set up shop there. There are hundreds of other Democrats that also need to shoulder the blame, but Frank is the sputtering, pus-filled poster boy of this economy (along with Chris Dodd, who wisely retired). If they want to blame Republicans, blame those who saw what was happening and looked the other way. IMO, blaming the Street is a waste of time...they simply capitalize on the circumstances around them. The people who caused those circumstances... they aren't on Wall Street. They're in the Capitol.

Why are politicians exempt from the laws against Insider Trading? How does someone like Harry Reid go from being a sh!tkicking nothing from a backwater like Searchlight Nevada, then shows up in Washington with no business or financial experience, and now years later is a multi-millionaire? He's never run a business, knows nothing about finance, yet we're supposed to believe he "made excellent investing decisions" on his own? Who repealed Glass-Steagall and why? Why was Lehman taken to slaughter while Goldman was propped up? Why has no one been arrested for falsifying credit ratings, which led to the mortgage meltdown? What does it mean that Goldman's fingerprints are ALL OVER the Solyndra loan? Those are the questions they need to be asking. This "Twitter Protest" is pointless and is being directed by Bill Ayers & Co, which should tell you everything you need to know.

25 posted on 09/18/2011 11:00:22 AM PDT by ponygirl (People are calling our President the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers; thatÂ’s not allowed is it?)
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To: Mathews
It was the Gov't that is primarily to be blamed. Banks follow Gov't policy.

To hate banks is to hate capitalism. Banks provide credit...communists hate credit because it allows people to get ahead. Without credit, the middle class would be without homes, cars, and small businesses most of which were gotten by using credit.

There's nothing evil about credit, but these people would say there is.

28 posted on 09/18/2011 11:09:32 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Mathews

“Overfees or high mortgages, student loans, the banks are touching every aspect of our lives.”

Who’s responsible? The banks who charge overfees and provide mortgages and student loans, or the people who take the money?

No one forced anyone to take the money, run up their charge cards, or finance their education. For example, it’s still possible to work one’s way through college and/or save up over time to buy a house. No one OWES anyone else such things as housing or a college education. You take the money, it’s your fault if you don’t like the terms.

Conservatives once believed in individual responsibility.

BTW, I do agree with you to the extent of government bail outs. They have no more right to other people’s money (for the mistakes they make) than individuals.


33 posted on 09/18/2011 11:29:10 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. I prefer good!)
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To: Mathews
Mathews, I don't have much time for FR today, but I was cruising through this thread and ran across your post. I wanted to take a minute to respond. (Since you asked. :)

If you were to go down there, in milling about you would find people who say some of the same things that tea party people say. And this is why you feel conflicted. Because we DO have a problem in America— the technical term is crony capitalism.

But, And this is really BIG, these professional progressive organizers who are the subtle “voices” moving people in this protest, do not care about America and saving it from its self.

One guy, at the “Stacking Assembly” last night at the protest, had this to say...

“Prior to our constitution being established, there was a global movement happening. The British were inspired by the Spanish and from that came the Magna Carta. Our constitution was inspired by the Magna Carta, and we today [referring to those at Wall Street] are again being inspired by the Spanish in a new global movement. We are together [Wall Street protesters in unison with other global protesters of their governments] creating a new constitution that will be ever evolving, just as we are right now...”

the live feed went dead at that point. I saw this guy later being interviewed on live stream, and he started that speech all over again. But before he got too far into it, someone with him whispered something I could not hear, and then the guy nodded in agreement and went to another subject.

Poor guy, he's part of the progressive team, but he apparently didn't read the handbook closely enough. First, you get everyone talking about issues that matter to them, then once passions are united, and everyone is demanding solutions, you turn the talk to the place you had intended to go all along. This is where “constitution guy” is at, where the progressive organizers are GOING.

So, in conclusion, if you want to be part of a global socialist society that has one global monetary currency, then the Wall Street protest is for you. But be prepared to call the US Constitution a “flawed” document that needs to “grow” into today's time.

If however, you believe the US Constitution got it right, but has been misapplied through the years by subversive acts against it through the use of judiciary and through covert marxists subtly changing it's application through legislation, then FR and the Tea Party, and generally any person who dares to think independently of media and political talking points, are all on your side. I hope I've helped. But don't take my word for it. Gather information for yourself! And to get you started, here's a great link (although lengthy, worth it!)

http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/Bound%20to%20Past%2009-08-2011.pdf

Happy hunting! And here's hoping that you end up on the side of the US Constitution!

FReeguards, D.

39 posted on 09/18/2011 1:37:21 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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