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To: Semper911; prisoner6
I can't speak for Prisoner6, but here is my take:

You each have a highly principled opinion, but please consider that there is no need to wait for a top surgeon before you stop the bleeding. Our country deserves some first aid from the current trauma.

Nonsense. This country is hemorrhaging rights, and she is quickly becoming unable to keep her sovereignty. First aid my a$$. These sonsab*tches on BOTH sides of the aisle are selling us down the river. Until you realize that the two parties are just two legs of the same order, you will continue to be part of the problem.

If you aren't voting for a dyed-in-the-wool, rock-ribbed Conservative, you are simply whistling past the graveyard. Some plastic-banana, feel-good win ain't gonna change a damn thing.

We cannot allow Obama another term. No matter what. [...]

If our candidate is not a Reagan Conservative, there is no substantial difference between him and what you would replace him with; so your position does not hold water. Right now, the closest thing up there to a Reagan Conservative is Perry - and he is a long way off of the mark (Far enough that I will not vote for him).

[...] Are you willing to put the country at risk to stand by your principles?

It is my principled opinion that it cannot be fixed without a total reboot - So I would rather do that now than later anyway, while we still have the commitment to liberty that we have left. Another generation given to the nanny state, and there won't be enough gumption left to save it, nor will there be anything left to save...

And I will always risk ANYTHING to stand upon principle - Principles are 'first things'. They are always paramount, else they are not principles. You do right because it is the right thing to do. Remember the will of our fathers. Each time you compromise those founding principles, you are not standing in the breach, but making one instead.

We all would love to have a true conservative as president. But we have to fight the enemy first!

That is HOW you fight the enemy! The liberals NEVER compromise. Where the hell did you get the idea that there is victory in compromise on our side? It is ABSURD. If you think there is ANY substantial gain in a mere Republican, we are already lost!

195 posted on 09/17/2011 7:03:20 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Good reply -- I love an enthusiastic debate. A few thoughts...

BOTH sides of the aisle are selling us down the river.

Agreed. I have said many times that we don't need a third party, we need a second party.

Right now, the closest thing up there to a Reagan Conservative is Perry

I am not impressed with Perry as a true conservative, but he would be better than Obama.

If you aren't voting for a dyed-in-the-wool, rock-ribbed Conservative, you are simply whistling past the graveyard.

And if you aren't casting a vote against Obama, you are wasting your civic duty to support and defend our country and its constitution.

Some plastic-banana, feel-good win ain't gonna change a damn thing.

I don't get the whole banana thing, but I will feel very good about sending Obama and his puppet masters into retirement.

it cannot be fixed without a total reboot

So who is your candidate? Who is a true conservative, and can win the primaries and defeat Obama? Please, I'd love to find that person and get on board. We all would.

Principles are 'first things'... You do right because it is the right thing to do.

Absolutely agree. That's why my first principle is to defeat Obama. It's the right thing to do. It's just my opinion based on my analysis.

Where the hell did you get the idea that there is victory in compromise on our side?

I never asked for compromise. Maybe that's where you misunderstand me. Getting rid of Obama is job one at this point in America. He is the enemy coming over the wall. He and his little group are eroding our chances of ever rebuilding our country back to the founding fathers' vision.

We just disagree on priorities, but we agree on a lot. I respect your strong principled views, but I believe we have an emergency situation this time around.

I also believe the Obama presidency is creating and fortifying conservatives all across this great country. This tipping point on which we find ourselves may prove to be a great moment for conservative Americans and for the country. We may well be thanking him like we thanked Carter for giving us President Reagan.

Thanks, roamer. I look forward to reading more of your posts on other threads.

202 posted on 09/17/2011 8:19:38 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: roamer_1
I can't speak for Prisoner6, but here is my take:

You summed it up pretty dang WELL! KUDOS, and a tip o' my hat to you!

211 posted on 09/17/2011 9:21:32 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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