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A great deal of this sounds like your good old MSM B.S. for two reasons.

1) Invent or not, America is not about just inventing first. Only a fool would fail to realize how lawsuit and copyright sensitive American life is to realize that America is about being first to file, because the file with a patent office is proof that you came up with it first.

2) The main problem with inventions is not about the process and filing so much as about the resources involved in finally developing the invention. If I used company or some other person's property to produce the product, especially pharmaceutical development, it's a little complicated as to who deserves shares in ownership of the invention. Put in mind that I did not make the invention neccessarily on my own, and because I did use someone else's resources, such a person or organization deserves credit and acknowledgement for making the work possible.

Either way, agree with me or not, let the discussions begin!

1 posted on 09/16/2011 9:22:45 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Some advice from your friendly Freeper patent attorney:

1. Keep your invention secret until you understand the implications of this law (find a patent attorney to advise you).

2. Document all necessary disclosures of your invention to any suppliers.

3. Plan to file a fast Provisional application (cheap, if you have already done a writeup and some sketches).

4. Be security paranoid. The law makes fertile territory for industrial espionage. All they need to do is to learn of your invention, file before you do, and leave you unable to prove that they learned it from you. This means better employee agreements, and better computer security. Hire consultants.

I can advise on any of this to those who freepmail.


2 posted on 09/16/2011 9:33:44 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Morpheus2009

The House version was much better...the Leahy authored Senate version had “help” from large corporations and ‘vested interests’. The part about the auto review sucks. so, if you are a small time invientor, bring a patent to market, you have to have the $$$ to dfend it against the big guns for 9 months??? Yea, pass the bill so we can see what’s in it. Again.


4 posted on 09/16/2011 9:36:34 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Morpheus2009

What is being overlooked is that this bill is to give cover to one of Obummers cronies.

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/breaking-news/president-obama-signs-the-law-giving-cover-to-politically-connected-law-firm-wilmer-hale-for-its-214-million-dollar-malpractice/

Spread the word.


7 posted on 09/16/2011 9:42:28 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Morpheus2009
Greta covered this bill last night, on FOX

Included in the bill is a bailout for a politically connected law firm in Boston.

9 posted on 09/16/2011 9:46:19 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Morpheus2009

This should be found unconstitutional. I don’t know who will file the suit, but the Constitution recognizes the rights of “inventors”.

SCOTUS will need to decide whether being the second to think up an invention but first to file makes you an “inventor.” Put another way, can one invention have several separate “inventors”?

I can’t say which way they would rule.


11 posted on 09/16/2011 9:50:49 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Morpheus2009
I haven't read the legislation but in the past, if you had an idea, there was a procedure whereby you could establish a date of invention and the US Patent Office then gave you 12 months to develop the idea before filing a patent application.

If this has been done away with, the small innovator has been killed.

13 posted on 09/16/2011 9:59:18 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Morpheus2009
To streamline the patent process, reduce the backlog of 700,000 patents and promote "renewable green energy", Congress has authorized the purchase of one or more "perpetual motion machines" to handle incoming applications. The same solution was recently implimented at the U.S. Post Office to "mixed" results.
16 posted on 09/16/2011 10:16:43 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Morpheus2009

Now that the bill has been passed, where can we find out what’s in it?


19 posted on 09/16/2011 10:24:31 AM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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Obama used the occasion to promote his $447 billion jobs plan

Here's an idea - tell Obama that he can have the funds for the jobs plan, but he'll have to get it back from Solyndra!

20 posted on 09/16/2011 10:26:03 AM PDT by existentialist
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To: Morpheus2009

The perpetual motion machine, affectionately known to insiders as “the Perp”, is expected to have costs near zero after initial startups.


21 posted on 09/16/2011 10:27:36 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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FACTIOD: The first “perpetual motion machine” in the world was constructed to handle the U.S. Government’s 2009 Fiscal Budget processing.


23 posted on 09/16/2011 10:37:17 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Morpheus2009

A cheater’s mentality. Go figure.


24 posted on 09/16/2011 11:15:20 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: All; Morpheus2009
More constitutionally dubious job killing reform.

Steve Perlman had a great letter to Boxer & Feinstein opposing the bill. He has over 100 patents and another 100+ pending.

Here's a portion of his Feb. letter.

If patents did not exist, established large entities would be the most able to survive, utilizing other forms of market power to defend their incumbency. Small entities with disruptive technologies, on the other hand, would simply not exist. Anything they would develop could be readily cloned by large entities, who could easily out-market them, and so no investors would ever fund the small entities.

S.23 is a Bill whose provisions dramatically favor large entities over small entities. Already, given the massive patent backlog, for many new products, the market window passes long before patents issue, placing large entities at an enormous advantage over small entities. Giving large entities even further advantage until the backlog is resolved will just make matters worse.

But worse than anything, S.23 undermines the uniquely American process of invention. It casually sweeps aside established paradigms that have successfully fueled the engine of innovation in America since its founding, and demonstrably fuels it today. We don’t want American invention to be like that of other countries. We want America to continue to be the world’s mecca for invention.

After 4 sessions of Congress considering the Patent Reform Act, not a single practicing inventor has ever been allowed to testify before the Senate, and only one inventor has testified before the House (and he strongly opposed the Bill). It should come as no surprise S.23 is so disconnected from the reality American Invention.

I urge you to oppose S.23. Focus instead on a much simpler Bill that would allow the USPTO to keep its fees and bring the massive patent backlog under control. After the patent system is functioning normally again, we can sit down and determine what changes would make it better. It is essential that practicing inventors from small entities are a part of this process.

More criticism of the legislation, from practical implications to constitutional questions, at Save Our Jobs

25 posted on 09/16/2011 12:31:46 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: Morpheus2009
a signing ceremony at a high school in Arlington, Virginia

He signed the bill at my alma mater - TJHSST - which is located in Alexandria (technically Annandale) NOT Arlington.

Stupid MSM can't even get their facts straight.

26 posted on 09/16/2011 4:43:50 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Morpheus2009

Big Government ^ | August 30th | Bob McCarty
There is so much more here, please respect this man’s intellectual property by visiting the following link.
http://biggovernment.com/bmccarty/2011/08/30/patent-reform-act-threatens-engine-of-prosperity/

In early February 1997, I received a telephone call from a longtime friend in Washington. He was calling to say that we were being recruited for a very important assignment, an assignment related to national security.
He explained that, in 1996, the Clinton administration agreed to give the People’s Republic of China a complete set of magnetic tapes from the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office computers, containing every iota of American technology registered with the patent office in the previous 160 years. With the information from those tapes on their computers, the Chinese would know exactly how to make everything we make. But more importantly, by tracking the long-term development of every conceivable kind of technology and extrapolating the path of development into the future, the Chinese could “leap-frog” our own technological development.
No American president could possibly think it was a good idea to do such a thing – unless, of course, he owed a debt of gratitude to the Chinese and he was more concerned about that than he was about the future prosperity of the American people. The American people would never have known how many factories were being built in remote provinces of China, employing workers who were happy to work for two or three dollars a day. When the proposed technology transfer was inadvertently reported in a Commerce Department newsletter, the offer was withdrawn.
But what was potentially more damaging to the United States was contained in a Memorandum of Understanding with the Japanese government, signed by Commerce Secretary Ron Brown… an agreement to introduce legislation in the U.S, Congress that would destroy the U.S. patent system, as we know it. The vehicles for that treachery, already introduced in Congress, were H.400 and S.507, the House and Senate versions of the Omnibus Patent Reform Act of 1997.
Because the legislation was so thoroughly “wired” on both sides of the aisle, our employers were seeking a small team of experienced government relations professionals who’d been in the political arena long enough that many of their longtime friends had risen to become influential members of Congress. They were looking for lobbyists who were on a first-name basis with members of Congress…. men whose reputations in the political world were such that they could ask members of Congress to take certain actions, on faith alone, and expect those requests to be honored.
What made the task so difficult was the fact that the legislation was supported, not only by the president and vice president of the United States, but by the Peoples Republic of China, the Japanese government, the Indonesian Lippo Group, and 80 or 90 of America’s largest multinational corporations… all but assuring the neutrality of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers.
On the day we arrived in Washington, April 12, 1997, we tuned in to C-Span just in time to see the House of Representatives pass H.400 on a voice vote. Not one member of the House of Representatives demanded a roll call vote on a bill that would severely emasculate a core function of the federal government.
When we were finally able to obtain a copy of S.507, we read it very carefully and we were horrified. Never in all of our years as lobbyists had we ever read a worse piece of legislation. If we had ever wondered what it was that the Chinese received in return for the millions of dollars they poured into the Clinton-Gore reelection campaign in 1996, there was no longer any doubt:


29 posted on 09/17/2011 7:11:54 AM PDT by Haddit
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