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Professors offer more than $10,000 for proof that Bachmann’s story about HPV is true
Yahoo News ^ | 09/15/2011 | Chris Moody

Posted on 09/15/2011 1:35:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann's story about a woman who claimed that her daughter suffered "mental retardation" after receiving a vaccine against HPV could fetch the woman's family thousands of dollars. But the family can only collect if Bachmann or the unnamed woman can prove the story is true.

Two bioethics professors have offered to pay more than $10,000 for medical records that prove the anecdote Bachmann told after Monday night's Republican presidential debate is true, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports:

Steven Miles, a U of M bioethics professor, said that he'll give $1,000 if the medical records of the woman from Bachmann's story are released and can be viewed by a medical professional.

His offer was upped by his former boss from the University of Minnesota, Art Caplan, who is now director of the University of Pennsylvania Center for Bioethics. Caplan said he would match Miles' challenge and offered $10,000 for proof of the HPV vaccine victim.

"'These types of messages in this climate have the capacity to do enormous public health harm,'" Miles said of why he made the offer. 'The woman, assuming she exists, put this claim into the public domain and it's an extremely serious claim and it deserves to be analyzed.'"

Bachmann told the story after she criticized opponent Texas Gov. Rick Perry for using an executive order in 2007 to mandate that all girls entering the sixth grade receive a vaccination against the Human papillomavirus, a sexually transmitted disease that can cause cervical cancer.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antivax; bachmann; bachmann4romney; cervicalcancer; gardasil; hpv; michelebachmann; pantsonfire; vaccine
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To: Paperdoll
The mobs really do come out when a woman sticks her slender neck out to run for office. We've seen it with Sarah, we see it with Michele and we will see it with the next woman who comes along. And you cannot shame any of this mob. They will come back at you with a second mob and scream at you to go take a Midol or degrade your intellect.

They are vicious. Anonymity seems to breed viciousness.

61 posted on 09/15/2011 2:32:46 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: Polybius
Seriously, though, there were a slew of youtube videos about young women who were pefectly normal pre-gardasil, and then had major health failures afterwards. Can someone check the validity of those? Are they still there?

Too bad Bachman is stuck with the double standard. Obama gets "57 states", "My Muslim Religion," + a Biden gaffe machine, and on and on, but Bachman has the uphill climb against the CDC/BigPharma/FDA revolving door.

Has anyone thought about why there is a National Vaccine Injury Compensation system? The numbers represent real people, with real children who were injured. Where are the academics and ethicists to stand up for them? What about the folks who get turned away from compensation because they can't prove causation, because a doctor ain't going to step into that mess by bringing up the vaccine as a cause of injury/death?

I do hope someone steps up to the plate, here. Unforunately, individual parents don't have giant lobbying machines working for them, or seats on Pharma boards or on the FDA. They just get years of relentless care for a vaccine-damaged child. Heaven forbid THOSE people get a voice.

Then again, such a person is being asked to open up their medical records, their pain, their suffering, plus scrutiny by an unfriendly (to say the least) press, RINOs, Country Club Repubs, etc., who in their right mind would want to deal with that?

I am amazed on FreeRepublic, of all places, how Big Government people get about the vaccination issue - somehow, TSA searches are bad, but getting injected with mercury or being forced to accept medical intervention against one's will is suddenly an exception to that liberty.

I am not holding my nose to vote for a fake conservative again.

62 posted on 09/15/2011 2:35:59 PM PDT by elk
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To: Polybius
Seriously, though, there were a slew of youtube videos about young women who were pefectly normal pre-gardasil, and then had major health failures afterwards. Can someone check the validity of those? Are they still there?

Too bad Bachman is stuck with the double standard. Obama gets "57 states", "My Muslim Religion," + a Biden gaffe machine, and on and on, but Bachman has the uphill climb against the CDC/BigPharma/FDA revolving door.

Has anyone thought about why there is a National Vaccine Injury Compensation system? The numbers represent real people, with real children who were injured. Where are the academics and ethicists to stand up for them? What about the folks who get turned away from compensation because they can't prove causation, because a doctor ain't going to step into that mess by bringing up the vaccine as a cause of injury/death?

I do hope someone steps up to the plate, here. Unforunately, individual parents don't have giant lobbying machines working for them, or seats on Pharma boards or on the FDA. They just get years of relentless care for a vaccine-damaged child. Heaven forbid THOSE people get a voice.

Then again, such a person is being asked to open up their medical records, their pain, their suffering, plus scrutiny by an unfriendly (to say the least) press, RINOs, Country Club Repubs, etc., who in their right mind would want to deal with that?

I am amazed on FreeRepublic, of all places, how Big Government people get about the vaccination issue - somehow, TSA searches are bad, but getting injected with mercury or being forced to accept medical intervention against one's will is suddenly an exception to that liberty.

I am not holding my nose to vote for a fake conservative again.

63 posted on 09/15/2011 2:35:59 PM PDT by elk
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To: miss marmelstein

Men have been running this country in the ground for years.

I guess they reserve the right to take the blame for losing the Republic.

It falls on their backs. I take no comfort in that.

Conservative are going to have to do better than the current crop of men we run for President. We always end up with a RINO who we pretend is conservative . Usually because what the democrats offer is a full blown communist.


64 posted on 09/15/2011 2:36:07 PM PDT by dforest
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To: ScaniaBoy

Perhaps it’s the election season. But why do they have to be so nasty? Really dispiriting - as you say.


65 posted on 09/15/2011 2:36:48 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: indylindy
This is certainly going to be an interesting election cycle.


66 posted on 09/15/2011 2:39:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: indylindy

The thing is....no one in Texas GOT the shot. All this about nothing. I know, ‘cause I live here.


67 posted on 09/15/2011 2:42:17 PM PDT by native texan (Hard work, faith, thrift and one more word..."honesty")
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To: napscoordinator

Wow. Seems this nasty thread has turned positive. Decent people coming out to shame the mob. Bless you!


68 posted on 09/15/2011 2:42:46 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: miss marmelstein
These dopes have nothing better to do with money or their time than hunt down some poor woman who talked to Bachmann after the debate? I have always believed this story to be true whether or not Gardisil is a dangerous vaccine or not. We need to find this woman and report her to Attack.com.

Nobody wants "some poor woman".

What is wanted is the examination of the (non-existent) teenager that allegedly went from "normal" to "retarded" so that the truth can be determined.

If the story is true, other teenagers will be spared the horror of having their lives destroyed because the truth about Gardasil causing mental retardation will then be proved.

If the story is a hoax (as I would bet you my life's savings it is), then girls that might benefit from the vaccine will not be scared off by the irresponsible hoax.

Yet, there you are, wanting to hide the truth by whining about "some poor woman" but insisting in keeping The Hoax alive, without any proof, and scaring patients that would benefit from the vaccine.

You want the right to scare millions of parents and teenagers with the Big Lie but you resist any effort to determine if the Big Lie is actually the truth by portraying it as an attack on "some poor woman".

Your thought process is seriously warped.

You are, in effect, arguing for the right to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater without being challenged.

69 posted on 09/15/2011 2:45:08 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: Longbow1969

” She wasn’t likely to win the nomination anyway, but this thing really blew up in her face.”

Anyone think Mitt would pick her as his running mate?


70 posted on 09/15/2011 2:47:35 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: elk
Seriously, though, there were a slew of youtube videos about young women who were pefectly normal pre-gardasil, and then had major health failures afterwards. Can someone check the validity of those? Are they still there?

See my post #53.

Demyelinating disease - eg MS
Guillain-Barré - peripheral nerve disease causing lack of muscle power and paralysis, usually patients recover, but not always

71 posted on 09/15/2011 2:48:21 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: patriotspride

No female running mate this time around - not needed and too risky.


72 posted on 09/15/2011 2:51:42 PM PDT by existentialist
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To: Polybius

Yes, Polybius: I know you as the guy who wants to run around America with a needle sticking it into the arms of virgin brides.

Personally, as I said to you once before, I think you are nuts. Seriously nuts.


73 posted on 09/15/2011 2:53:58 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: SeekAndFind
CDC: "As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil®
were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total
of 18,727 reports of adverse events

As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports
of death among those who have received Gardasil®."


"Foaming at the mouth, shock, seizures, paralysis,
coma-even death have been reported
as a result of taking the vaccine Gardasil from Merck ... "

74 posted on 09/15/2011 2:55:25 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Paperdoll

Oh good grief, listen to yourself.

Pulling the gender card is every bit as despicable as pulling the race card.

If there’s any shame i’ts on you.


75 posted on 09/15/2011 2:59:35 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: indylindy
Men have been running this country in the ground for years.

That's right! And they've been white!! White people have been running this country into the ground for years too! AND, they've all been over 5'6'' tall! Tall white men have been running the country into the ground for years!

What we need is a black female midget, yeah - that's the ticket.

76 posted on 09/15/2011 3:00:01 PM PDT by liberty_lvr (Drill Gaia like a 3 am prom date)
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To: miss marmelstein
Perhaps it’s the election season. But why do they have to be so nasty? Really dispiriting - as you say.

Tempers usually flare on FR during election seasons, but I must admit I have been taken back by some of the comments directed at staunchly conservative female politicians. At DU, yes, but here at FR???

It is hard to not come to the conclusion that the criticism directed at Palin and Bachman very often has more to do with their gender than their political positions. But, again, no one who enters national politics should be above critique (Gov Palin would be the first to agree with that!) and although the "nasty" critics of Palin and Bachman ofter are very loud and obnoxious, they still appear to be a small minority here at FR.

77 posted on 09/15/2011 3:00:48 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: muawiyah

What in the world are you supposed to be proving here? I read the entire PI, and there is nothing about 24 deaths in medical trials.


78 posted on 09/15/2011 3:00:51 PM PDT by Carling
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To: miss marmelstein
I have to agree, it is looking worse every day. A big part of this is with a woman there is no Pee and pontificate in the Toity, no getting away from the Woman's influence in the John.

Believe it or not even with really conservative Political people, they do not want females in the conversation or Superior to them. The way we can nail them is to say we will join them in the head if they think they can make big decisions without us by pretending to have to pee.

I did not know this crap existed with Pubbies, I thought it was a Rat problem when I was a Democrat. Pubbies are just more sneaky about it.

79 posted on 09/15/2011 3:01:06 PM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. candidate for America the Beautiful...)
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To: miss marmelstein

LOL!


80 posted on 09/15/2011 3:07:31 PM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. candidate for America the Beautiful...)
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