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To: Tublecane
The magna carta is not and has never been the supreme law of the land nor is it the foundation of conservatism.

Perhaps your comment was intended as humor, or even black humor, but there are those of us that take the Constitution very seriously. We have a lot of problems facing us, including the government usurping powers that were never granted to them by the constitution, but saying the constitution "isn't in effect" because of this is false. Anyone can break any law, that doesn't invalidate the law...it simply means that the law breaker must face justice.

6 posted on 09/15/2011 9:29:27 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

“We have a lot of problems facing us, including the government usurping powers that were never granted to them by the constitution, but saying the constitution ‘isn’t in effect’ because of this is false”

How else would the Constitution not be in effect? People not following it is the very definition of that. Oh, okay, nothing’s perfect and no law can be followed with absolute and perfect fidelity. But we’re way beyond even a sliding scale between deviations and fidelities. We’re not even close. Our system of government, except in name, wouldn’t even be recognizable to a citizen of 1850 (and not due to amendments), and everyone knows it.

We still talk about it, and still abide by some few of its restrictions and allowances. But we still talk about the Magna Carta, too, which was my point.


12 posted on 09/15/2011 9:35:44 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Durus

“Anyone can break any law, that doesn’t invalidate the law...it simply means that the law breaker must face justice.”

What about when there’s no justice to be faced, because the authorities don’t recognize law as having been broken? What is there to face up to?


13 posted on 09/15/2011 9:37:22 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Durus
Anyone can break any law, that doesn't invalidate the law

Well said. The Constitution, despite some laughable Scotus decisions, still means what it says.

38 posted on 09/15/2011 11:15:52 AM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning.)
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To: Durus

“nor is it the foundation of conservatism”

Neither is the Constitution, by the way. Conservatism is much bigger.


61 posted on 09/15/2011 12:19:58 PM PDT by Tublecane
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