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To: verga
Is the following an “extreme” statement? Please explain why?

Government schools are godless in their worldivew. Children who attend will learn to think and reason godlessly. They must If they are to cooperate within the classroom.

How is the above extreme?? Huh?

Now the next question is derived from the statement above. Do good people ( teachers) cooperate with, establish, and willingly take a paycheck for teaching children to think and reason godlessly and destroying the faith taught in the home? Or...Do good people ( teachers) work to shut the system down and work for private solutions?

Is following extreme?

Government schools are socialist-funded. By attending children learn to be comfortable with the voting mob (using government threat of force) taking money from a neighbor for a free tuition free service. Do good people or teachers cooperate with, assist, or take a paycheck for this?

Is the following an extreme statement or is it true?

Government schools are compulsory for all who can not ransom their children through the extra expense ( jiyza) of private or home schooling.

Is the following extreme or true?

Once in the school, children ( whose only crime is being born) are treated like prisoners by the government. Their rights, and indirectly their parents rights, to free speech, press, and assembly are crushed by the government. And....They are subject to non-stop indoctrination in the government religion of atheistic secular humanism. In other words, government schools are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination. How is this an “extreme” statement? Do good people cooperate with this or work to end it and rescue as many children as possible?

There are many more points that I could make about government schooling. There are solutions **already** being implemented in nearly every state in the union that would help build the private infrastructure needed for complete separation of school and state. GOOD people are doing all they can to move these ideas forward! Good people are doing all they can to rescue children one at a time.

And ....Finally, when the minister's wife or nice Mrs. Goody ( who loves her cat) teach in the government schools, inexperienced parents are lulled into the false impression that godless government schools couldn't be **that** morally and ethically bad. Gee! Mrs. Goody and the minister's wife work there.

49 posted on 09/16/2011 3:53:34 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: wintertime

“Children who attend will learn to think and reason godlessly.”

I can’t tell you how many times my students have said, “You can’t talk about religion in school,” whenever anything remotely referencing God/faith/etc. comes up in class discussion. They have been successfully trained to chant the meme.
I usually follow this with a lengthy discussion of the error of their statement, the First Amendment to the Constitution, the role Christianity has played in our nation’s founding, the little mention about the teaching of the Gospel found in the Northwest Ordnance (abiding by the which was required of all would-be states.) In short, I let ‘em have both barrels.

So much work to undo!


51 posted on 09/16/2011 4:13:23 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: wintertime

More strawman arguements.


53 posted on 09/16/2011 5:06:21 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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