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To: wintertime
The only reason you would want to know is for Alinsky reasons, so I answered these questions privately. Whether my grandchildren are privately or home schooled has absolutely NOTHING to do with the following: Government schools are godless! Good teachers don't destroy the faith of children. Evil teachers do that. Government schools are socialist funded, Merely by attending children get used to the voting mob giving them tuition-free schooling. Good teachers don't help chidlren be comfortable with socialism. Evil teachers do that.

NO you are wrong. If you can't convince your own family of the validity of your arguments then why should we believe you.

L.R. Hubbard was never able to convince his son to join the "Church" of Scientology, James Whites' Sister Patty Bonds and her entire family converted tot he Catholic Church.

So if the people like you (extremists) can't convince the ones closest to you: Why should we listen to you?

48 posted on 09/16/2011 2:30:50 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga
Is the following an “extreme” statement? Please explain why?

Government schools are godless in their worldivew. Children who attend will learn to think and reason godlessly. They must If they are to cooperate within the classroom.

How is the above extreme?? Huh?

Now the next question is derived from the statement above. Do good people ( teachers) cooperate with, establish, and willingly take a paycheck for teaching children to think and reason godlessly and destroying the faith taught in the home? Or...Do good people ( teachers) work to shut the system down and work for private solutions?

Is following extreme?

Government schools are socialist-funded. By attending children learn to be comfortable with the voting mob (using government threat of force) taking money from a neighbor for a free tuition free service. Do good people or teachers cooperate with, assist, or take a paycheck for this?

Is the following an extreme statement or is it true?

Government schools are compulsory for all who can not ransom their children through the extra expense ( jiyza) of private or home schooling.

Is the following extreme or true?

Once in the school, children ( whose only crime is being born) are treated like prisoners by the government. Their rights, and indirectly their parents rights, to free speech, press, and assembly are crushed by the government. And....They are subject to non-stop indoctrination in the government religion of atheistic secular humanism. In other words, government schools are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination. How is this an “extreme” statement? Do good people cooperate with this or work to end it and rescue as many children as possible?

There are many more points that I could make about government schooling. There are solutions **already** being implemented in nearly every state in the union that would help build the private infrastructure needed for complete separation of school and state. GOOD people are doing all they can to move these ideas forward! Good people are doing all they can to rescue children one at a time.

And ....Finally, when the minister's wife or nice Mrs. Goody ( who loves her cat) teach in the government schools, inexperienced parents are lulled into the false impression that godless government schools couldn't be **that** morally and ethically bad. Gee! Mrs. Goody and the minister's wife work there.

49 posted on 09/16/2011 3:53:34 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: verga
So if the people like you (extremists) can't convince the ones closest to you: Why should we listen to you?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What nonsense!

Libertarians believe that federal park land should be returned to the states. Does that make them hypocrites if they ( or a sister, brother, or son) were to visit a federal park?

This is a Saul Alinksy technique to destroy the credibility of the message by attempting to paint the opponent as a hypocrite.

I sincerely hope that, if you are a teacher, that you do not use this debating tactic on immature students who would be incapable of recognizing this manipulative technique and are in a defenseless position of power. To do so would be highly emotionally abusive. It would be child abuse.

50 posted on 09/16/2011 4:05:02 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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