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Giving Up on Bachmann
Powerline ^ | 09/14/11 | Steven Hayward

Posted on 09/14/2011 6:05:05 AM PDT by freespirited

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To: ClearCase_guy

“The media has its eye on Romney and Perry and if anyone else in the herd seems both threatening and vulnerable, the media will jump in and try to bring them down.”

Yeah. For example, they are ignoring Herman Cain.

But, on the one hand, I agree that Bachmann has done a few things in this race that can be seen as head scratching. So the media has used it to knock her down.

I figure that if she is toast, it is because she had too much against her and she fell into a trap of not knowing what to do to get support back.

It was a mistake to never attack Romney with the same gusto as Perry. She didn’t do enough in the first debates.


61 posted on 09/14/2011 6:51:53 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Shelayne

Yup! Perry must shape up. I just heard Bill Bennett say the same thing.


62 posted on 09/14/2011 6:52:25 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: miss marmelstein
I’m afraid conservatives will just not accept a woman candidate.

Truly, I think this is the heart of it.

63 posted on 09/14/2011 6:52:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Maybe. But crazy Perot never made it to the White House and Trump won’t either.


64 posted on 09/14/2011 6:54:06 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: Rudder
...why doesn’t NBC or the other major media perform the same service when anti-vaccine quackery comes from Robert F. Kennedy Jr....

Or when the government completely takes over our entire health care system? What's one little shot compared to the death panels euthanasia agenda?
I'd rather get a shot and live rather than an Oboma pill and die!

65 posted on 09/14/2011 6:54:25 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I totally agree re the vaccine. However, I don’t think she’ll get a majority of US voters on that one, is all I am saying. Plus, she just ragged on and on about it, in a haranguing sort of way, which I found very unappealing.

I had liked her very much in print.


66 posted on 09/14/2011 6:54:55 AM PDT by bboop
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To: MadelineZapeezda

“She also alarmed many girls that were given the vaccine with her mental retardation remark....this did it for me....she was in my top 3 choices”

yup and she has to be held responsible for playing politics with health issues. great you want to take digs at Perry because he’s the frontrunner. We get it. Go after immigration if you want.
But if even ONE girl dies of cancer because she was scared out of taking the vaccine...I don’t want to say what will happen.


67 posted on 09/14/2011 6:55:28 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Probably true.

Would be nice though, if more on our side listened to what he’s saying.

He’s right. Even if orange.


68 posted on 09/14/2011 6:55:43 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: ClearCase_guy

MY time? i like her far better than i like Palin for the job, but as a woman myself, i am not going to excuse her from the consequences of her own foibles. I also believe the ones you list NEED winnnowed, as they cannot WIN. I am hopeful that others may still enter the field with more electability going for them.
I use my conservative non-freeper friends and twenty something children as a gauge on who is electable. If one never leaves FR and uses this forum as barometer, one gets a very unrealistic view of the voting populace, IMO. The “folks” are nowhere near as engaged or informed as freepers are, and they look at these candidates very skeptically.


69 posted on 09/14/2011 6:55:43 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ilovesarah2012

I hope you’re not trying to use Obama’s incompetence as an excuse for Bachmann.

You do bring up a good point. Neither of them have a track record of either legislative or executive success.

Being well-spoken is not a qualifier for higher office.

Nor is getting oneself elected.


70 posted on 09/14/2011 6:56:33 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: C. Edmund Wright
What gets me about the Gardicil controversy is that all Perry did was enter an executive order to include HPV vacination in the list of (mostly) required vaccinations and include an opt out clause. Ever since the beginning of the twentieth century the states have required various vaccinations for children, including smallpox, diptheria, tetanus, etc. Just because HPV is a STD doesn't mean the at risk population shouldn't be vaccinated as it is for other dangerous diseases. When Perry saw this and took action, he was just doing his job.
71 posted on 09/14/2011 6:58:28 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: kevkrom

Good catch...I hadn’t heard about that one. Is there a link you can point me to?


72 posted on 09/14/2011 6:58:34 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ClearCase_guy

They will say that they want a Margaret Thatcher but if Mrs. Thatcher was an American presidential candidate, they would be attacking her helmet hair, her handbag, her high-pitched voice (sans her cultured British accent) and her “Margaret Thatcher-Milk Snatcher” past.

What is it Rush says? I know these people like every inch of my naked, glorious body. I won’t go that far but you get the message, lol!


73 posted on 09/14/2011 6:58:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Why not outrage over government mandating all kinds of vaccinnes. To me, this is an issue of government mandating these things and it is generally accepted that government mandates vaccinations.

I want consistency in the outrage. Either it's OK to mandate all vaccines, or it's not. One should not be singled out.

74 posted on 09/14/2011 6:58:50 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: miss marmelstein
Yeah, but I don't think its only conservatives who're guilty.

Its the principles, folks. Not the candidate.

75 posted on 09/14/2011 6:59:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: xsmommy

Very good points re: not using FR as a barometer of the electorate.

Same with those who watch only Fox News and take pride in being ideologically pure and unmolested by contrarian views.

We must toughen up, educate and expose ourselves to the mood of the country, arguing points against us, and what’s at stake.


76 posted on 09/14/2011 7:00:50 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: concerned about politics
AMEN!!!! Perry is the one who understands SS and Romney totally blew it and then Bachmann sells out teaming up with Romney.

Frankly, Newt is the consistent winner of these debates.

77 posted on 09/14/2011 7:01:01 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

All true.

However we’ve come long enough down the road of ever more laws, frankly we do not need any more.

Seriously. Why have a full-time congress, and 50 full time governments, collecting tax money to MEDDLE IN OUR LIVES.

We have enough laws. About everything. We do not need any more.

None.


78 posted on 09/14/2011 7:01:09 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Perry received donations from Merck. He had meetings with Merck. His former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Gardasil. His chief of staff at the time was the mother-in-law of the state rep who was the Texas chair of a group called Women in Government that Merck used to funnel money into states all over the country. Perry mandated the use of a Merck product through executive order.

This is important for people to realize. Gardasil only protects against a small number of the numerous strains of the STD that cause cervical cancer. The vaccine gives a false sense of security to girls and encourages the hook-up culture. There is nothing worthwhile about this vaccine. Yes, there is unfounded paranoia about some vaccines. But in the case of Gardisil, the paranoia is warranted.

79 posted on 09/14/2011 7:01:23 AM PDT by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: skeeter
Its depressing to see that all of these people who weren’t supporting Bachmann before have decided to continue not supporting her.

I was open to anyone but Oboma. As a woman, it was great to see her doing so well, but she blew it. When she did that "innocent little girls" skit over and over and over with a shrill voice and a rabid look on her face, she lost me. It literally turned my stomach.
It was like sitting on a bus for hours with someone who wouldn't shut up about their rectal surgery.

80 posted on 09/14/2011 7:01:27 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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