Posted on 09/13/2011 3:24:23 PM PDT by Evil Slayer
RUSH: Perry goofed up by using an executive order on the Gardasil -- there's no question he goofed up on it -- instead of taking it to the Texas legislature. He's admitted that over and over again. I think one of the reasons that Perry gets tired is that he had all the questions. He had to answer every question three or four times last night, and he did it smiling. I tell you, I would have probably (by the third or fourth time they came at me on this) have said, "What more do you need to hear on this? What more do you want to know? There was an opt-out! If anybody didn't want to take it, they didn't have to." There was an opt out. So the next time, I'm gonna have to issue another warning: "Not only don't go bother with this Social Security Ponzi scheme stuff, but forget this vaccine business." This is ending up being a giant distraction. Now, I said that Bachmann may have jumped the shark. It's just a gut feeling. Last night on Fox she was on with the Greta after the debate and she continued to talk about this.
BACHMANN: It's the Merck drug company, and the governor's former chief of staff is the chief lobbyist for this big drug company; and mandated, again, that every girl would have to have this particular drug. And the problem is it comes with some very significant consequences. There's a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. She said her daughter was given that vaccine. She told me her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result of that vaccine. There are very dangerous consequences. It's not good enough to take, quote, "a Mulligan" or you want a do-over. Not when you have little children's lives at risk.
RUSH: All right, now, she had scored the points in the debate, but now this comment has become a news item for Bachmann today rather than what she said at the debate last night. That's what I mean by jumping the shark. She scored the points and should have left it there.
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RUSH: We've got Vinny. Vinny in Queens. Vinny, are you no New York 9? Do you vote in that district?
CALLER: No. No, I live in Long Island.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: I wish I could vote in New York 9, but that's been gonna be some race to watch.
RUSH: That really is. I've got so much to say about that race, but I gotta wait 'til it's over.
CALLER: Well, let me say what I have to say, and that's this. You know, I like, Michelle Bachmann but, quite frankly, she sounded shrill last night. This is before what you just said about her talking to someone claiming that this drug causes mental illness. She sounded a lot like a Democrat by pushing the words "innocent" and "children" over and over and over again. Part of the problem we have in politics is people afraid to say, "Hey, I was wrong," okay? Rick Perry as much as said that to a degree. The guy basically came out and said, "Yeah, I would have done it differently. I'm sorry I did it that way," but she went after him over and over again. And I thought it was kind of unnecessary, and I thought it cheapened her status, quite frankly, as a contender. And I do like her, but I think -- and, by the way --
RUSH: Vinny, put yourself in her shoes. Here she comes out of the Iowa straw poll in Ames, she's the winner. Perry is not in the race yet. Perry announces -- and by the way, I, El Rushbo, predicted this. I said, If he announces, it's gonna shake everything pick up," and it did. He announces, and all of a sudden, even before his first debate appearance, he's in the top tier, and he's taken her place. She's got one chance here, in her mind, I'm sure, to recapture the energy that she had going into the straw poll and winning it in Iowa, and that's what last night was all about. You just think she did it the wrong way?
CALLER: I really think so. You know, I'm an adherent to Ronald Reagan's Eleventh Commandment, thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.
RUSH: That's impossible in a primary!
CALLER: No, no. Let me finish. I know you're right. It is impossible, and they should go after each other, but we shouldn't sound like Chuck Schumer going after each other. We should make our point and we should go on to the next issue. Now, like you said Perry has a big problem with immigration. All these candidates have their problems. Okay? And, by the way, why does he look fatigued at the beginning of the second-hour? Because if you were Rick Perry and you realized every question from the moderator and every candidate is gunning for you you'd like fatigued, too. Because he knows what's coming. He knows if the guy tied his shoelace the wrong way they're gonna make an issue out of it, and I understand that part of the process, but to me that's why he kind of peters out the second hour because the guy spends all his time saying the same thing over and over and defending himself.
RUSH: Yeah. I know.
CALLER: Well, that's the way I feel about it, and let me premise again: I like Bachmann. I do. I just thought she went a little overboard last night with that whole child vaccination thing I really do.
RUSH: Vinny, I appreciate the call as always.
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RUSH: Seattle, Washington, as we go back to the phones. This is Ania. Great to have you. Welcome to the EIB Network.
CALLER: Hi, Rush. Greetings from the beautiful state of Washington. By the way, from your intro, I just got back from Alaska and I just wanted to let you know the glaciers are fine, they're there, everything's good on that.
RUSH: Yeah, in fact they're getting bigger, yeah.
CALLER: Yeah, they're massive, they're huge, they're not going anywhere. But just about Bachmann's big pounce that she did on Perry yesterday and trying to get him on the HPV vaccine. I'm a mom, and there is an opt-out on this whole thing. Usually I really like Bachmann, I think she's very genuine, I just didn't see the real zinger in that one. It's just much ado about nothing. I think he was honest, Perry came out as being sincere, and if that was her big thing, I just didn't see it. I just wanted to share that there's an opt-out.
RUSH: I hear what you're saying. Okay, he admits that he made a mistake in the way it was implemented. He admits he made the mistake, and then the pile-on continues, and people did see that as a little bit gratuitous. That's what you're saying. I understand, especially since there was an opt-out. Again remember, now, from Bachmann's perspective, she's the Iowa straw poll winner. Perry announces, he totally takes over. This is a campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. She's got to get back in that upper tier. She's got to go after the number one guy. That's what she's doing.
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RUSHL Let's go to central Texas here. Janice, you're next. I'm glad you waited. Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program. Hi.
CALLER: Hello. Oh, my gosh, Rush Limbaugh, it's unbelievable I'm speaking to you. Have a great day. I have two points on Perry and Bachmann on the immunizations. Simply by mandating the immunizations, he put it on the schedule, the immunization schedule that's required for kids to even come to school for years. For instance, recently chicken pox, recently meningitis, recently hepatitis B, so Gardasil ought to be there. Now, if you've got a problem with getting your kids immunizations, there's always a flat risk, flat. But the benefits far outweigh that. Number two, with Gardasil and hepatitis B, they are both sexually commutated. And if you are a parent of a girl or a boy now, because both sexes can get this immunization now, you should definitely get it for your kids, because genital warts is so prevalent that the CDC doesn't count the numbers anymore, statistically speaking.
RUSH: Okay. So let me see if I understand where you are on this. You think that the Gardasil was a good thing, and you think that the mandatory vaccine of little girls in Texas that Perry required was a good thing?
CALLER: Should be little boys as well now 'cause now boys and girls can get it.
RUSH: Right.
CALLER: Back then when he first did it just girls could get it.
RUSH: But you also think it was a good thing because there was an opt-out?
CALLER: Absolutely. And if you didn't want it, then you take responsibility for what happens, don't ask me to pay for your opt-out if something goes wrong.
RUSH: Yeah, I've been there.
CALLER: And my other point is the Ponzi thing. If only people that added into Social Security were taken out it wouldn't be much of a problem. Unfortunately we have a lot of hands in that bucket that never put a dime in.
RUSH: Oh, yeah, I been there, too. Yeah, okay, well, this affords an opportunity. Here's a woman in Texas who has no problem with what Perry did on the Gardasil and the HVC vaccine, no problem whatsoever, thinks about everybody ought to get it. Now, I must admit, I bring no shortcomings to this program. However, there are things that I have to work extra special hard on to get up to speed with you on, and one of them is things involving kids, 'cause I don't have any. So my natural inclination when this stuff about the vaccine hits, it has no personal impact on me so I have to work hard to, quote, unquote, care about it. I don't have little girls, therefore I don't have the fear that mine are gonna get cervical cancer. Therefore when this thing hit, the natural inclination was, that's somebody else's problem.
Of course I can't afford to look at it that way. So I'm just wondering as I sit here how many of you mothers out there raced out and got this vaccine? When you heard what was being touted about the vaccine that it would go a long way toward vaccinating your kid, your daughter against cervical cancer, did you wait or how many of you, you know, a lot of people, government mandates a vaccine, when the Clintons came along and tried to do it, it depends on who's doing the mandating as to people's reaction. Now, here we have Janice in central Texas, just fine, she has no problem with it whatsoever. (interruption) What is that? Well, it only works before they've had sex. Right. Well, you have to get the vaccine -- yeah, preferably -- well, if it only works before the kids have sex, then you got to vaccinate them before they're seven or eight, I would think. Isn't that about right? I don't have kids. Isn't that about right?
So if you don't do it before they're seven or eight, is it automatic it doesn't work, or its chances of working are much reduced? (interruption) Oh, really? Oh, oh, your daughter, she had to sign something that said she hadn't had sex? So if you've had sex and you admit you've had sex as a kid they won't give you the vaccine? Okay. Okay. So it must be that it's no impact whatsoever if you've had sexual activity, zip, zero, nada. Well, let's go to the debate. Here's how this happened. It was in Tampa last night, and Wolf Blitzer said, "Governor Perry, as you well know you signed an executive order requiring little girls 11 and 12 to get a vaccine to deal with a sexually transmitted disease that could lead to cervical cancer? Was that a mistake?"
PERRY: It was, indeed. If I had it to do over again, I woulda done it differently. I woulda gone to the legislature, worked with them. But what was driving me was obviously making a difference about young people's lives. I will tell you that I made a mistake by not going to the legislature first.
RUSH: Now, he also said he hates cancer. I mean I'm quoting him there, he hates cancer. At any rate, here is Bachmann after Blitzer said, "Congresswoman Bachmann, do you have anything to say about what Governor Perry just said?"
BACHMANN: I'm a mom, and I'm a mom of three children, and to have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat-out wrong. That should never be done. That's a violation of the liberty interests. That's little girls who have a negative reaction to this potentially dangerous drug don't get a mulligan, they don't get a do-over. The parents don't get a do-over.
RUSH: She wasn't finished.
BACHMANN: We cannot forget that in the midst of this executive order, there was a big drug company that made millions of dollars because of this mandate. It's wrong for a drug company because the governor's former chief of staff was the chief lobbyist for this drug company. The drug company gave thousands of dollars in political donations to the governor, and this is just flat-out wrong. The question is, is it about life or was it about millions of dollars and potentially billions for a drug company -- RUSH: All right, so there was the charge, crony capitalism, that Perry had no real interest here in saving lives, he wasn't interested in that, it was simply the fact that his former chief of staff was the chief lobbyist for Merck, and that there was a payoff, and that that's why he insisted on the vaccine be given because it had to be bought, and that meant profits. So Perry said that he ended up being offended by this.
PERRY: Yes, sir. The company was Merck, and it was a $5,000 contribution that I had received from them. I raise about $30 million, and if you're saying that I can be bought for $5,000, I'm offended.
BACHMANN: I'm offended for all the little girls and the parents that didn't have a choice. That's what I'm offended for.
RUSH: Now, what I didn't understand throughout this whole thing was there was an opt-out, there was a choice, there was an opt-out. I don't know how widely advertised the opt-out was, but there clearly was an opt-out there. Now, I'm also being told that we might not be correct here in saying that this vaccine is no good if given to you after you have sex. There's a school of thought that says the Gardasil only works if you get the vaccine before you get the HPV infection. It's not so much that you've had sex; it's that it only works before you've had the infection. If you get the infection first, the vaccine doesn't work.
I am not a doctor, I don't play one on television, and I don't want to be stamping official medical news that we're putting out here that may not be a hundred percent accurate here. In other words, you have to be vaccinated before you get the infection. All vaccines work that way, that's what a vaccine is. The smallpox vaccine will not prevent you from getting smallpox or chicken pox, mumps, whatever they shoot you up for. In my day, the polio vaccine was a sugar cube that they gave you and had something in it, kids loved the sugar cubes. But if you had polio it wouldn't do any good. All vaccines actually work that way.
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RUSH: Now, on this crony capitalism business. I mentioned this at the top of the program. Sarah Palin jumped on this with Greta last night, the Perry and the Merck thing. She jumped all over, in defense of Bachmann. There's no evidence that what Bachmann charged Perry with doing happened, and Perry said he can't be bought for five grand. A cynic could listen to what Perry said, "Well, what is the price?" (laughing) I'm not saying that. Some could. Crony capitalism is when the government is using tax dollars to subsidize a particular industry or company. What Bachmann is accusing Perry of is a quid pro quo. That's making a decision based on a donation. That's not crony capitalism. Crony capitalism is what Obama's doing with GE and Solyndra and that kind of stuff.
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RUSH: Palin getting involved in this is a little unsettling only because there's no evidence that Perry did any of this, and it really isn't crony capitalism anyway. Now, if you're making official policy in exchange for a donation, we're talking about something criminal, and that you'd better be able to back up if you're going to charge that. That's why, frankly, people cringed when she said it, because that takes it to a different level. That's not simply a policy disagreement; that's an accusation of criminal activity that she made, Bachmann against Perry. That's why this little nervousness that you could see and sense settle through the hall there, changed the whole dynamic.
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I’ll add this.
In 2007 (the most recent year numbers are available)—
•12,280 women in the United States were diagnosed with cervical cancer.
•4,021 women in the United States died from cervical cancer.
>> Rush seemed embarrassed by her remarks <<
I wonder if Rush’s new wife has influenced his views, or at least his “expression” of his views?
Obviously Bachmann is not ready for prime time.
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RUSH: Now, Mitt Romney. Romney, as time goes on, looks presidential. He gets better as a debater. I think he was better last night than he was the previous time, but not backing away from Romneycare is a mistake. He's gonna have big problems with this.
I think Romney has an uphill climb to win Republican primaries, given the mood of the country, because Romney is in the position here of having to rely on mistakes made by others (in this case Perry) or Romney is going to have to rely on mistakes that he can force others to make. Now, Perry has weaknesses, they all do, but he carries himself as a conservative. You know what the attitude about Perry is? Let me tell you what it is. Right now, without taking a single phone call today I can tell you what the attitude about Perry is in conservative Tea Party circles. I'll betcha I'm right about this. "Get off this vaccine! Okay, I've heard it, I get it. He's admitted it was a mistake. Okay? And this immigration thing, fine and dandy, but I'll take Perry over Obama any day!"
That's what's going around out there. If you're a Romney fan, that's what you're saying about Romney. "I don't care about his health care! I'll take Romney over Obama any day." The others on the panel need their supporters to be saying the same things about them. Perry is not gonna back down on his immigration stance. The audience grumbles. You can hear them. The thing is, why does Perry appear strong when he sticks to his position on immigration and Romney looks weak when he sticks up for Romneycare? Because he does. Have you noticed that? Perry seems strong when he defends his positions; Romney doesn't; and I think that's probably because Romneycare is Obamacare no matter how many times Romney says states' rights or laboratory or test or what have you.
Each issue is a problem for the candidate because you just can't say "states' rights" and expect to be forgiven for unsound and unpopular decisions or policies. But now here's a key: Romney and Perry both get hammered for their records as governors. Having a record is tough. Just ask our man-child president who's trying to pretend that he doesn't have one. Obama is try to pretend that he doesn't have a record. He hasn't done anything. The problems were so bad, he inherited all this from Bush. It's worse than he thought. All he's done is good stuff. He doesn't have a record but Perry and Romney do, and that's why, on balance -- even during our candidates' worst moments -- they are hands down far superior to Obama.
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I mean that. They really ought to quit the Republican primaries and go over and challenge Obama. It would be far more interesting and they'd be far more at home with what they're doing. In neither case do you have warmth or even a lightness in their personalities. Herman Cain. People call here and say, "Why didn't you talk about Herman Cain?" I'll talk about Herman Cain. Herman Cain last night was on fire. When it came to the EPA, you know, the candidates were asked what would you do to clean the environment. He cited the EPA, you know what he said he would do? He would appoint EPA victims to run it. That is a fabulous idea!
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Romney's worried that Ponzi scheme scares seniors, but he's not worried that Romneycare scares Republicans. I'm gonna tell you something: In a comparison to those two, Romneycare scares Republicans far more than Ponzi scheme scares senior citizens. This is where political instincts come into play. Romney's defending the indefensible, which is Romneycare; and he's attacking the concept of reforming Social Security because he's saying (paraphrased), "Don't even bring it up! We can't win elections by talking about Social Security." This is not, by the way (I continue to stress here) a pro-Perry comment right now. I haven't endorsed anybody. Don't want anybody to misunderstand here. I just think Romney needs to step back and take a look at these issues through a conservative lens.
There's no political opportunity in taking on positions that sound a lot like what opportunistic Democrats would say. Not in a Republican primary. Now, Romney is not that, but that's the vibe that he's putting out right now. Any time you start doing anything that looks like you're pandering to the media, you're running the risk here of turning off Republican primary voters. Reform programs that are structured to fail are not good programs. We need to end programs that are hostile to individual liberty, and this is something every Republican ought to be able to agree with on that stage and in these debates.
As we both know, even a loose cannon like her would be 10x better than Hussein Obama!
Palin is also a proven quitter.
Go here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2740839/posts?page=20#20
Follow section9, he is flippin brilliant....
She did what was best for AK, given how the politicized legislature was galvanized against supporting any of her agenda after her VP run.
Somehow, I don’t think the actual situation matters to you, you’re just looking to be a jerk.
I’m not sure what your point is. There was an opt-out option, but it didn’t matter since the “mandate” never went into effect.
So what you are saying is okay he wanted to be a socialist but since it never took effect, he’s not?.....lol
Yeah that will work...he just made a mistake....lol
Rush is wrong and so are you....and I am going to go watch my phils coast to another division title....lol
So, it’s OK for you to attach labels to Rick Perry, but if I call Sarah Palin a “quitter”, which she is, I’m being a “jerk”.
That’s some amazing logic there, FRiend!
Didn’t I say between the lines? Yes I did.
The only untetsted vaccine I have ever seen approved to use is the Anthrax vaccine they made military folks get. The CDC had tested Gardasil on 29,000 people, approved it and certified it safe and effective before 2007 (June 2006). You apparently do not like the decision Perry made about his EO and I can understand that. I think that being dishonest about the safety of the vaccine diminishes people making the argument. Look it up if you want, here is a link to the CDC HPV page: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hpv/default.htm
Skeeter! Thank you for saying that!
“One of these ‘doofuses’ will face Obama a year from November.
I hope that for once we can avoid becoming so emotionally involved and bitter when our guy loses that enough sit out the general election.
Thats the only way the incumbent can a-hole walk in for a second term.
Threads like these aren’t exactly inspiring.”
Get it together people. Seriously. Stop the infighting. The ONLY question we should be asking: Of those in the race right now...who can actually win?
I say Perry is the ONLY candidate that can beat Bozo the KLOWN. Perry is getting hit hard by the others - but he’s keeping is cool and he is definitely smizing better now during the debates! (Smizing=smiling with eyes)
Illegals climb over fences and dig under them too...so as a Texas girl - I get it.
Mitt’s a loser from the last time. Let’s go with a winner, okay? Rally around whoever wins the nomination...but LORD, let it be a winner!
Baby steps!
So beautifully put.
/kudos
>The Fed needs to be blamed 100% for the illegal issue.<
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I am still waiting for the debate where they have the courage to discuss this country’s #1 national security threat — Islam.
Notice that I did not say, militant Islam.
Now, please demonstrate WITH A TRANSCRIPT where Palin said that the Merck donations to Perry were pay-to-play. I watched the interview on the Fox website, and what I saw was Palin putting emphasis on Perry's chief of staff leaving and becoming a Merck lobbyist as evidence of crony capitalism. And only the most obtuse hacks can pretend that the revolving door between government and corporations is not a problem.
I am willing to be shown wrong, but you have to put something up to do that other than a claim not based on a transcript (and not as a few words lifted out of a larger paragraph, either).
Right you are Cripplecreek.St rick has no clue what awaits him with regards to the teaparty.
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