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I definitely think Rush is on the Perry bandwagon, But Bachmann did herself no favors last night exaggerating the Gardasil issue. I never thought I'd say this... But I am getting a little tired of her....
1 posted on 09/13/2011 12:29:12 PM PDT by supahstar2005
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She came across as desperate and overreaching. It's like anytime that a liberal tries to correlate raising taxes with the “but it's for the cheeeeeeldren” argument. Break out the Nutella, she's toast.
37 posted on 09/13/2011 12:50:05 PM PDT by festusbanjo (This is what happens when you hire a guy to run the country that hadn't run anything but his mouth)
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Rush is definitely on the pharma bandwagon. He has been very dismissive of any claim from any quarter that these immunizations might not be all that they’re cracked-up to be.


38 posted on 09/13/2011 12:51:05 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I don’t like Perry, although I may end up voting for him. I will never trust him.

Rush is promoting Perry, big time. ““There’s no question he goofed up on it instead of taking it to the Texas legislature. He’s admitted that over and over again.”

That isn’t entirely accurate. In reality, Perry attacked the GOP for overriding him, accusing his opponents of letting women die for political expediency. THAT is what folks should attack Perry for...along with being pro-illegal immigration.

“In an emotional speech to reporters Tuesday, during which the governor surrounded himself with women whose lives have been affected by the cancer-causing infection, Perry laid blame for future cervical cancer deaths at the feet of lawmakers who supported the bill.

Perry thanked the minority of legislators who voted against the bill and said, “No lost lives will occupy the confines of their conscience, sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.”

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/05/09/9hpv.html


43 posted on 09/13/2011 1:00:14 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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I like Bachmann, I like Perry. And I don;t like to see the GOP candidates clobbering each other.

ONE of them will be left standing to fight Obama and we needn’t give him ammunition.

More than liking Bachmann and Perry, I despise Obama and want him OUT of the White House.

ANYONE would be better.

These candidates should remember Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment!


47 posted on 09/13/2011 1:04:24 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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Trying to spin this is a pathetic fail by the Perry camp.

NO Conservative should EVER be conformable with a Government official, no matter how well intentioned, demanding the right to inject into children anything without the parent's consent.

There is NO WAY to square Perry's actions here with Conservative values.

The Perry camp would be really wise to stop trying to justify the unjustifiable. Perry is on the right track, he admitted it as an error and moved on. His followers would be really wise to follow his lead on this.

49 posted on 09/13/2011 1:07:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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The feeling I got listening to Rush lately and today is that he does support Perry. I think he also supports Palin, but was annoyed at her crony capitalism attack on Perry on Greta’s show last night.


58 posted on 09/13/2011 1:14:50 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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My response, if I am Rick Perry, to Bachmann.

Bachmann: "Hey, Rick, I've heard of Gardasil vaccinations causing mental retardation."

Perry: "Oh, okay, *that* explains all of your gaffes and mistatements. Didn't even know you were a Texan when I wrote that Ex. Order!"

66 posted on 09/13/2011 1:18:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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If she attacks Perry on the immigration / tuition for illegals issue, she’ll get more traction as it’s an issue that concerns independents and liberals as well. As for the Gardisil, she’d be wise to drop it.


71 posted on 09/13/2011 1:24:15 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Hurricane Irene is Obama's fault because he hates people in general. Fair's fair.)
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Bachmann was just on Hnnnity’s and said that if we don’t vet the candidates, the Dems will.

This actually might be very healthy, because if ANY of the Republicans can’t survive the primaries, they might not win in the General Election.


92 posted on 09/13/2011 1:45:04 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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An example of Rush talking about something he hasn't fully investigated. Perry's Gardasil apology tour didn't begin until he ran for president. For the four years prior he repeatedly defended the mandate.

If Perry, in fact, believes the mandate was a mistake, then when exactly did he come to that realization? Perry today says that he saluted the decision of the legislature to reject his executive order. "Roger that, I hear you loud and clear," a now chastened Perry says, describing what he learned from getting "to far out in front of the parade." But that's simply not what happened.

When the mandate was rejected Perry held a press conference surrounded by women with cervical cancer and, complaining that the process was hijacked by politics and posturing, blamed future cervical cancer on the opponents of his mandate (Rick Perry's Gardasil Problem). He didn't listen to those opponents, representing the overwhelming majority will of the Texas public, and say "roger that". He did just the opposite and poked them with a finger to the eye.

And Rush doesn't seem to grasp that when Bachmann and Palin accuse Perry of crony capitalism they are not de facto accusing him of pay-for-play or bribery. Perry's former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Merck as was his chief of staff's mother-in-law. They were lobbying states to do what Perry did, mandate Gardasil as a required vaccine. That means big money flowing from taxpayers to Merck. The circumstances here are the utter definition of crony capitalism. Taxpayer money flowing directly to friends and supporters of those in government power.

That the mandate was ultimately killed doesn't change the fact that Perry made a patently dubious decision, based on sketchy science and without a genuine public debate, that on its face appears to reward his cronies with taxpayer monies. The appearance alone should have given Perry reason enough to back off.

93 posted on 09/13/2011 1:46:50 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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I did not watch the debate, but listened to Bachman on Rush this morning, re Gardasil. I was NOT impressed.


99 posted on 09/13/2011 1:55:36 PM PDT by bboop
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There is TONS of stuff to attack with Obama and his Chicago Thuggery/Marxism. Why oh why do the Republicans attack each other? I cannot stand that. Maybe in the final run-off, but at the beginning? They could state their positions, take on Obama, and have an absolute field day preparing for his demise. But NO.


100 posted on 09/13/2011 2:00:14 PM PDT by bboop
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Bachman is a failing candidate and the vaccine “pseudo-issue” is her desperate bid to save her campaign. Her last hurrah so to speak! She does in fact shoot her mouth off oblivious to the import of her verbiage. She should stay in congress and keep her mouth shut.Her only utility is the fact she holds a seat as a Republican.
103 posted on 09/13/2011 2:05:36 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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I never thought I would be disagreeing with Rush. But I am on this one. Getting a little tired of him. He said he would be upset if Bachmann did what she did so that ship has sailed. But why he would be upset is dumb. You’d think he’d know how the election cycle goes after 23 years. Safe to say I don’t agree with Rush over this. Bachmann had every right to make her case and try to attack approach. This shouldn’t be the coronation of Rick Perry with not one vote cast and the primaries being months away.

Over the past year people here on FR have noticed subtle changes in Rush anyways. The tea he is selling, paying a cool million to Elton John to play a wedding, the marriage itself and his lackluster approach some days. Just saying. One can look the posts up.


108 posted on 09/13/2011 2:13:00 PM PDT by Mozilla
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-"“Alright, Perry goofed up by using an executive order on the Gardasil,” Limbaugh said. “There’s no question he goofed up on it instead of taking it to the Texas legislature."

Oh, really, Rush? You really think he "just goofed up"??

Well, guess what Rush...

"I think we need to hear what Governor Perry's saying. He's saying that his policy was right. He believes that what he did was right. He thinks he went about it the wrong way".

"I believe your policy is wrong. Why -- ladies and gentlemen, why do we inoculate people with vaccines in public schools? Because we're afraid of those diseases being communicable between people at school. And therefore, to protect the rest of the people at school, we have vaccinations to protect those children."

"Unless Texas has a very progressive way of communicating diseases in their school by way of their curriculum, then there is no government purpose served for having little girls inoculated at the force and compulsion of the government. This is big government run amok. It is bad policy, and it should not have been done."

115 posted on 09/13/2011 2:46:11 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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Thank you to ElRushbo. I am sick of hearing about it too. Perry has answered this enough. Are we supposed to hand out country over to Obama for a second terms because Michele Bachmann is throwing hissy fits about something that has been answered, explained and Perry even said he would have done it differently. Would Michele Bachmann say she made a mistake in her life???? I doubt it.


119 posted on 09/13/2011 2:54:16 PM PDT by Katarina (God bless ElRushbo! Prayers for our troops! I stand with Israel.)
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Bachmann is effectively out.

The race is down to Perry and Romney. Perry’s so-so performance has made him vulnerable.

If Palin’s focus groups and internal polling tell her that she can take votes away from both Perry and Romney, then she will jump in.

If Palin stays on message with the big issues such as elimination of corporate welfare and corporate taxes, a complete overhaul of the personal tax system, eliminating all energy subsidies and merging the non-nuke part of DOE with the DoInterior and letting the nuke part go to DOD,
etc, then she can draw enough moderates to win. If she flogs the Republican platform, she will bring the Obama supporters over broken glass to vote against her.

I think she is waiting for the new trash book to come out and see if it has any traction.


127 posted on 09/13/2011 3:54:04 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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Bachmann may have "not done herself any favors" by bringing up the Perry/Guardisil issue, but it certainly has a LOT of folks on a LOT of sites talking about it (and the illegals issue) today.

Who knows what will ultimately become of these issues (for Perry) but the dialogue has changed regarding government mandates, crony capitalism and illegals receiving benefits, IMO.

131 posted on 09/13/2011 4:56:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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>> I definitely think Rush is on the Perry bandwagon,

I definitely think Rush wants to kick the jackass out of office.


135 posted on 09/13/2011 11:40:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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