Posted on 09/13/2011 11:03:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Hah! You’re funny. You don’t even want my post on a thread about HPV! You want me to take it to a NY board. Then you turn around and say you’re gonna gang up on me!
You’re living proof of what I’ve been talking about.
I find your reply to me to be insulting and your rhetoric to be over the top!
Once any drug reaches the trial-on-humans-stage those people are considered informed guinea pigs. After it is approved for human use then the rest is considered informed risk. Yet, anytime something goes wrong with some isolated person the trial lawyers are right on the case drumming up class action lawsuits. Those also increase the prices for drugs.
I will have to admire your diversity in source material. You have gone from Alex Jones to The Washington Post in search of material. How about posting or linking some of those government reports they are quoting, if anyone can believe the government anymore.
As far as political contributions go, which politician does not received contributions from companies far and wide. Personally I don’t think Perry or any of the other Republican nominees would sell out their principles. That is more of a liberal thing.
Your desire to nominate someone other than Perry has inspired you to insult me and fellow Freepers as well as a fine institution such as M.D. Anderson.
My question is did Gov. Palin have anything to do with the Hepatitis B mandate, and could she changed it even if she wanted to?
Also, you can get Hepatitis B just by coming in contact with someone who has it. You can’t get a sexually transmitted disease any other way than to have sex.
As a for instance, my father was very sensitive to aspirin...(not allergic) If he took 2 aspirin his tongue would bleed if he rubbed his teeth across it....He called me one day and said the doctor had put him on a new medication, altho the doctor knew he could not take ASA. His tongue was bleeding and he asked me to look up the medication in my PDR. One of the ingredients was aspirin so dad knew what was causing his bleeding....The doctor took him off the medication and gave him another one....The info was listed for the doctor but with older medications they usually don't refer to it. Not the doctors fault, but did tick off my father...Years before he developed a stomach ulcer that was hard to heal.....If you have ever looked up a medication without a background in some form of medicine you would not understand a lot, but when it comes to risks and contraindications you would understand what they were even if you had to look up some word in the dictionary....
The PDR has all the information that the FDA has and must by law be available to doctors....If they printed a lie about the medication, they would be put out of business fast...by the government and lawsuits....
Buying medication from other countries is warned against because of the loose regulations they have....I don't really know the med. your referring to, but I believe what you say....
What is insulting is having someone MANDATE an
untested drug (Gardasil was approved for, and partially
tested on, promiscuous women at the time
... not sixth graders) and then claim to be
“Conservative”.
You clearly are unable to separate RINO Mandates
from the vaccine itself.
Stick to the truth - if you can.
You can post it wherever the rules allow it, but it would have more discreet on your part to have that convo via FReepmail or on a NY Board at FR.
You’re living proof of what I’ve been talking about.
Bingo Baby! I am now ... AFTER your post about how arrogant and obnoxious Texas FReepers are and how we gang up on others because of our large numbers. You created your own reality, so I'm giving you a taste of it.
Why do you suppose that's the case?
But there seems to be hundreds of Texans on Free Republic...
As with the prior question, why do you suppose that is?
Don’t be silly; of course I know why there are more Texans than NYers on FR. That wasn’t my point at all.
Since you know why there are more Texans than New Yorkers on FreeRepublic, would you please share that information? Since I have such a miserably recent born on date, I really need to be educated by one of my betters.
Humbly thanking you very much in advance for the information.
My brain tells me that when someone gets on a high horse and tries to dictate to everyone else what is “ethical”, a conflict of interest is almost always present. And lo and behold, just that conflict of interest is present in this case.
Is that ethical? Pretty sure it’s not. So why should I take ethics advice from someone like that? The ethical thing for him to do is admit his conflict of interest and leave the statements to others who do not have such conflicts, if any are willing to go on the record.
You remind me of a third grader - sending out messages to all your little friends to get me. Do you keep a list of all Texas freepers?
Nice to know that Saul Alinsky tactics are alive and well on FR.
Gardisil provided partial protection.. only addresses 4 out of 20 typed of hpv viruses.
Could be a double edged sword...it could encourage risky sexual behavior or it could provide false reassurance so at risk women skip annual pap smears.
No vaccine should be given without thorough education on what it actually prevents.
It appears you have no idea what constitutes a conflict of interest. That doesn't surprise me given the content of your post.
Your sarcasm marks you as uneducated, proud of your ignorance.
I see you're a comedian as well.
In this day and age, and this climate, putting a researcher who has been funded by big pharma in charge of the largest research hospital in the world is more than a conflict, it’s putting the foxes in charge of the hen house.
What a cock. Yeah, if I wanted to cure cancer the last thing I'd want to do is put one of the top oncologists in the country in charge of the best cancer research hospital in the country, and possibly the world. It would be better for all involved if they'd simply chosen someone with a background in English Literature or Anthropology. Talk about building credibility and being able to attract donations for research! Yeah, they obviously picked the wrong guy.
HINT: There has never been a pharma funded piece of research that didn’t come out the way they wanted it to come out.
I have no idea what that means except for the fact that you don't know the first thing about research. But here you are anyway.
Yes. That’s what I’m saying. Any research funded by pharma is trash. Keck.
No, what you're really saying here is that you don't have the foggiest notion of what you're talking about and that you insist on proving it.
You still haven’t said anything that supports your position in the least except to say MD Anderson good, therefore, Pinhole good. Bull. Nobody works on pharma grants unless they work for big pharma—immediate conflict of interest. The pharmaceutical companies are thoroughly discredited for numerous problems over the years from buying vacations for doctors to paying doctors to shill for their products at medical conferences. I’m not saying it’s altogether fair... but I am saying if Merck can’t underwrite a conference on psychopharmacology that doesn’t even include paid presenters, how in the hell can they get off buying the president of a research hospital?
I believe the push for making it a required vaccine was because then insurance would pay for it. Those who wanted it for their children would be covered, those who did not could opt out.
In general, there seems to be a lot more heat than light out there on this subject, that’s the one thing I am sure of.
There must be a conflict of interest in there somewhere.
Luddites. They're a trip.
"Hepatitis B (and hepatitis C) viruses cannot be spread by casual contact, such as holding hands, sharing eating utensils or drinking glasses, breast-feeding, kissing, hugging, coughing, or sneezing."
If you actually bother to read the info on the site you link, you will find that 92% of those were non-serious. Of the serious reactions, NONE were proven to be a result of the vaccine.
VAERS data cannot be used to prove a causal association between the vaccine and the adverse event. The only association between the adverse event and vaccination is temporal, meaning that the adverse event occurred sometime after vaccination. Therefore, the adverse event may be coincidental or it may have been caused by vaccination, however we cannot make any conclusions that the events reported to VAERS were caused by the vaccine.
You just can't help yourself, can you? You don't have any idea what constitutes a conflict of interest or how research is conducted in this country. But here you are acting like you do.
Nobody works on pharma grants unless they work for big pharma—immediate conflict of interest.
Pharmaceutical companies support all kinds of primary research. They know where the good work is being done and they try and stay as close to it as possible for obvious reasons. Commercializing that research and making products that help people is quite the challenge. Without the expertise of the drug industry, none of that primary research would result in products that save and improve lives.
The pharmaceutical companies are thoroughly discredited for numerous problems over the years from buying vacations for doctors to paying doctors to shill for their products at medical conferences
Pharmaceutical companies promote their products to the people who prescribe them? Say it isn't so. Oh, the humanity! Oh, the horror! ROFL!!!
I’m not saying it’s altogether fair... but I am saying if Merck can’t underwrite a conference on psychopharmacology that doesn’t even include paid presenters, how in the hell can they get off buying the president of a research hospital?
Merck bought the president of Anderson Medical Center? And for proof you have......? Yeah, just as I thought, you're talking out of the wrong end. Again, you are woefully ignorant about how research is conducted or how the drug industry commercializes products and then promotes them. That makes you uniquely unqualified to be offering an opinion on the subject. Over the past couple of decades, nine out of every ten NME's brought to market have been discovered in the USA.Yeah, all that conflict of interest is killing the industry. We must be doing something right - your feelings to the contrary notwithstanding. Sorry.
It certainly can by coming in contact with bodily fluids or blood, which children certainly do. Anybody playing a sport would fall into this category. Even children playing on the playground.
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