Posted on 09/12/2011 8:08:08 AM PDT by Kaslin
jboot: Ahh, mmmmkay.
ClearCase_guy: All Believers have a special and unique relationship with God.
jboot: Yes, but that is not how it comes off in the context of the peice. The author is claiming to be a prophet. As a rhetorical device it isn't such a good idea, unless you goal is to get 98% of your audience to tune out.
Fascinating interaction. jboot openly declares his opinion stands for 98% of the population, while simultaneously conflating the ideas of prophecy and personal experience of God - and denigrating the truth-telling as a "rhetorical mechanism" if it pans out.
That's pretty deft, if you think about it. Not just one flimsy piece of logic, but three, all intertwined into one and topped by the social denegration sound of "Ahh, mmmmkay." Sounds like jboot went to jschool.
While jboot doesn't say whether he believes in God at all, it's clear that if he does, his belief does not include a God who would actually talk to anyone, or have a personal relationship with anyone where communication is made. And why reject this? Well obviously, because it hasn't happened to jboot. And also because crazy people have claimed similiar things. Of course, crazy people have also claimed to be doctors, but I don't think that will stop jboot from dialing 911 in an emergency.
In addition, what if the guy is also a prophet? I guess the old drown-the-woman-to-see-if-she's-not-a-witch test would work there pretty well, eh jboot?
Always is.
And that's because the final word of God is found in the Bible, right jboot? Which is why you can show us the chapter and verse of the Bible which states that God will never contact anyone outside what is included in the Bible.
Right?
Good. Please provide the cite.
It’s better when it’s brought to my attention that I didn’t pay attention .... :):)LOL
I was on the 110th floor in a smoke filled room
with a man who called his wife to say 'Good-Bye.' I
held his fingers steady as he dialed. I gave him the
peace to say, 'Honey, I am not going to make it, but it
is OK..I am ready to go.'
I was with his wife when he called as she fed
breakfast to their children. I held her up as she
tried to understand his words and as she realized
he wasn't coming home that night.
I was in the stairwell of the 23rd floor when a
woman cried out to Me for help. 'I have been
knocking on the door of your heart for 50 years!' I said.
'Of course I will show you the way home - only
believe in Me now.'
I was at the base of the building with the Priest
ministering to the injured and devastated souls.
I took him home to tend to his Flock in Heaven. He
heard my voice and answered.
I was on all four of those planes, in every seat,
with every prayer. I was with the crew as they
were overtaken. I was in the very hearts of the
believers there, comforting and assuring them that their
faith has saved them.
I was in Texas , Virginia , California, Michigan, Afghanistan .
I was standing next to you when you heard the terrible news.
Did you sense Me?
I want you to know that I saw every face. I knew
every name - though not all know Me. Some met Me
for the first time on the 86th floor.
Some sought Me with their last breath.
Some couldn't hear Me calling to them through the
smoke and flames; 'Come to Me... this way... take
my hand.' Some chose, for the final time, to ignore Me.
But, I was there.
I did not place you in the Tower that day. You
may not know why, but I do.. However, if you were
there in that explosive moment in time, would you have
reached for Me?
Sept. 11, 2001, was not the end of the journey
for you . But someday your journey will end. And I
will be there for you as well. Seek Me now while I may
be found. Then, at any moment, you know you are
'ready to go.'
I will be in the stairwell of your final moments.
God
I remember seeing this beautiful poem posted online right after 9/11
Sooooo....YOU TOO got in trouble a lot as a child?
;)
STRESSING...”Seek Me now while I may be found...”!!!!
Ooooh yeah ... was home schooled and when I’d drift off into space by getting this blank look on my face my mom would quickly bring me back by slamming her hand on the kitchen table. When I finally explained to her that I was visualizing what she was saying she relented ... sorta.
A friend sent it to me last week. I thought it was very appropriate, since the title of the thread was “where was God on Sep.11”
he never made such a claim........And for what it's worth, do you also criticize your own pastor, priest or whatever, for his/her sermon? After all, in your own words, he/she is professing the same "unique insight"........are they not?
Tell you what, why don't you tell us how YOU REALLY FEEL about Christianity and those who chose to share their own insights about it. Pastors, priests and rabbi's included........
Wish I could say that you're wrong, but sadly I can't.
Or you can get raw with these strings. Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.
Do it!
Thats an ignorant tagline, or are you being sarcastic? The church has been hated for eons. Feared? Maybe. Hated? Definitely.
Matthew 10:22
22And ye shall be hated of all men for my names sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. (KJV)
***
You’re right. I need to reconsider.
I was counting up all the countries that hate our guts, and I also counted up the sins in the American church, and I remembered that ancient Israel had peace so long as it followed the Law, and that “[all scripture is profitable for doctrine, reproof, teaching, ...]” and thought the murderous hatred was due to the our collective sins.
In Acts they were feared because of the power and Holiness, but you’re right Jesus himself said they would be hated.
LOL!!!!
Excellent!!
God hasn’t spoken to me, as He apparently has to the author of this unpersuasive self-promoting sermon, and to the resident expressors of gratuitous nastiness.
Hi rdb3, long time no chat. :)
Yeah, it is sad. In general, conservatives fancy themselves to be the "adults in the room," but something about the relative anonymity of the internet seems to bring out the worst in people. FR is no exception, that's for sure.
Scary to think how much sheer mindless hostility is lurking just under the surface of so many millions of people.
Furthermore, if my pastor asserts something complicated and controversial and doesn't bother to back it up with scripture (which he has done) I definitely call him on it.
Those are my opinions. Your mileage may vary.
Still grieving over January 22, 1973?
September 11th, 2001
It was a retirement morning like any other -
waking up, cleaning up and getting ready
to go to Bobs for breakfast.
The TODAY program was on TV,
a familiar noise at this time;
Just like any other morning,
but today seemed different:
Something was happening in New York...
Unimagineable! A deed dark and EVIL.
We were suddenly at war; not with a Nation but an ideology.
Around 3,000 of us died that day 19 of our attackers did as well.
September 11th, 2011
Life is different now.
Unknown men handle me in public places that I could not have imagined just 10 years ago.
EVERYONE is suspect in a way that Orwell had written about, 62 years ago.
Grandmothers and toddlers are
scrutinized and inspected;
their bags and their bottles:
empty or not.
Today, we worry about and prepare for a possible repeat of that fateful day, 10 years ago.
While the head of the beast is allegedly gone, the serpent writhes on:
spitting its venom from multiple sources.
We rightly lament the loss of those lives; snatched away by those with other ideas.
3,000 in one day by terrorists?
Why; that is HORRIBLE!!! Unspeakable Satanic even.
But we have ideas in this country, ideas that are incorporated into LAW,
that snatch away life before it has a chance to begin.
More than half again as many in this country die - every working day - since then.
All because of a thing called: CHOICE.
It, too, is unspeakable.
Guttmacher Institute, compiling data from around the country,
says around 1.2 MILLION die yearly.
Right here in GOD Bless America
50 weeks a year (one must get a vacation);
5 days a week; yields 250 days that a CHOICE is made.
A CHOICE that abruptly terminates another humans life
just as suddenly as those taken on 9/11.
An average of 4 thousand, 8 hundred lives: each and every DAY!
Oh; we still have our buildings after all of this; but what has been ripped from our souls?
3,000 cry out for VENGENCE! for 9/11 2001; while 12,000,000 have no voice, 10 years later...
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Four score and seven years ago
our fathers brought forth on this continent,
a new nation, conceived in Liberty,
and dedicated to the proposition
that all men are created equal.
EQUALITY. It is found in Christ. Lincoln must have had that in mind when he penned CREATED.
St. Paul, in writing to the Galatians, said:
Its too bad he didnt add born and unborn: perhaps todays world would be different.
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September 11th, 2001
It was a retirement morning like any other -
waking up, cleaning up and getting ready
to go to Bobs for breakfast.
The TODAY program was on TV,
a familiar noise at this time;
Just like any other morning,
but today seemed different:
Something was happening in New York...
Unimagineable! A deed dark and EVIL.
We were suddenly at war; not with a Nation but an ideology.
Around 3,000 of us died that day 19 of our attackers did as well.
September 11th, 2011
Life is different now.
Unknown men handle me in public places that I could not have imagined just 10 years ago.
EVERYONE is suspect in a way that Orwell had written about, 62 years ago.
Grandmothers and toddlers are
scrutinized and inspected;
their bags and their bottles:
empty or not.
Today, we worry about and prepare for a possible repeat of that fateful day, 10 years ago.
While the head of the beast is allegedly gone, the serpent writhes on:
spitting its venom from multiple sources.
We rightly lament the loss of those lives; snatched away by those with other ideas.
3,000 in one day by terrorists?
Why; that is HORRIBLE!!! Unspeakable Satanic even.
But we have ideas in this country, ideas that are incorporated into LAW,
that snatch away life before it has a chance to begin.
More than half again as many in this country die - every working day - since then.
All because of a thing called: CHOICE.
It, too, is unspeakable.
Guttmacher Institute, compiling data from around the country,
says around 1.2 MILLION die yearly.
Right here in GOD Bless America
50 weeks a year (one must get a vacation);
5 days a week; yields 250 days that a CHOICE is made.
A CHOICE that abruptly terminates another humans life
just as suddenly as those taken on 9/11.
An average of 4 thousand, 8 hundred lives: each and every DAY!
Oh; we still have our buildings after all of this; but what has been ripped from our souls?
3,000 cry out for VENGENCE! for 9/11 2001; while 12,000,000 have no voice, 10 years later...
|
Four score and seven years ago
our fathers brought forth on this continent,
a new nation, conceived in Liberty,
and dedicated to the proposition
that all men are created equal.
EQUALITY. It is found in Christ. Lincoln must have had that in mind when he penned CREATED.
St. Paul, in writing to the Galatians, said:
Its too bad he didnt add born and unborn: perhaps todays world would be different.
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