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Owners Angry After Cops Shoot Dog in Backyard
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Posted on 09/09/2011 11:13:55 PM PDT by Borough Park

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But Samuelson's neighbor, Fernando Perez, said he told the cops several times that Ozzy was roaming in the back.

When the security alarm system at the home went off, Samuelson called Perez to check it out while she made the 20-minute drive to her house, he said. Perez said he knew not to go into the backyard because of the dog and when officers arrived, he warned them.

"'Be careful. It’s a big dog,' I told them. They told me to go back to my house," said Perez, who repeated the warning several more times. "Before I get to my driveway, I hear the two shots. They walked into the backyard with the guns in their hand. Then they ran from the backyard like they were scared or something."

Samuelson said she got Ozzy to protect the house and deter thieves. Police have not said what triggered the alarm.

"He was our protector," Samuelson said. "He’s a huge part of our family."

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To: Rapscallion
What a crock! The dog was on it's own property and had there been "a shooter," don't you think the dog would have been after him? If the dog was so vicious that the cops had to kill him, certainly he would have been so vicious that "a shooter" would have either shot him or been attacked. DUH!

Stop apologizing for BAD COPS. Cops are beginning to become enemies of the people they are supposed to be working for, just like the Obama government. Swaggering thugs with guns.

If the good cops--the majority of guys out there--don't like being smeared as thugs because of the actions of a few bad cops, maybe they should police themselves. Guys whose behavior reflects badly on the rest should be ostracized, harrassed, lectured to, suspended, put on a desk or in other ways convinced that it's time for them to find another job. As long as the "good cops" tolerate the presence of thugs and punks with guns, they are just as bad as the thugs.

Maybe the unions should stop focusing solely on defending these thugs and begin working to get them removed.
81 posted on 09/10/2011 4:59:55 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Jonty30
If the criminal has "run through the yard," then he ain't there and there is no reason to kill the dog to investigate . . . especially when the owner is on her way home.

You apologists are pathetic in attempting to rationalize and excuse the inexcusable thuggish behavior of little boys who are supposed to be trained as men.
82 posted on 09/10/2011 5:04:40 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

83 posted on 09/10/2011 5:10:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: FreedomPoster

This guy’s on every cop thread (or at least was) being very state-worshipful. There appears to be NOTHING a cop can do wrong, in this guy’s view.


84 posted on 09/10/2011 5:11:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Rapscallion
*** Suppose there had been a..***

No offense but there's no supposing required. The article states that it's the PDs policy for their cops to not enter a yard if a dog is present. That was right from the PD spokesman.

That is also the policy the Chicago PD follows: Dog in yard - Do Not Enter. They do a visual inspection of the property from where they are for a break-in (front, side, or from alley) while dispatch calls Animal Control. And if a door is ajar they sit on the house and wait for Back-up and Animal Control.

85 posted on 09/10/2011 5:13:00 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out consevatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry..)
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To: Rapscallion
"Suppose there had been a shooter back there and the police were distracted by the dog. Lives would be lost."

As it turns out, there was no shooter but a life was lost anyways. Shitty police work if you ask me.

86 posted on 09/10/2011 5:13:05 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Sudetenland

I’m not excusing the cops on this, I’m explaining the reality.

The reality is that when a criminal us being chased by cops, a useful strategy is to hop a fence and run through yards.

A dog, who is surpised, is likely to not react to the first person, but he will react to the second (cop) and possibly attack.

In this story, there is no excuse. The dog would have not have sat quietly while a gunman was hiding in the yard. The cop should have realized this and not went in the yard at akk, especially since the owner had made them aware of its presence.

The procedure, when a non-criminl owner is in a position to control the dog, they should be allowed to do so.


87 posted on 09/10/2011 5:13:24 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Borough Park
All these reports of cops shooting dogs -- and there are so many such incidents -- yet I don't think I've ever seen anyone suggest taking political action to remedy it. Is this not America?

Start with your community or your county or your state, whatever works best for you. Get organized, get focused, and get the damn laws passed to rein them in.

Better do it. And don't forget, the police don't only kill dogs. Paramilitary police, SWAT teams, actions against citizens recording police activity -- these are additional concerns.

Don't just sit there typing. Do something.

88 posted on 09/10/2011 5:24:13 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: Jonty30
"A dog, who is surpised, is likely to not react to the first person

You're welcome to come test your little theory in my yard any time you please...

...just wear some clothes you don't mind throwing away, and be prepared to be proven wrong.

89 posted on 09/10/2011 5:25:55 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

99 percent of cops are scum. They are not your friends.


90 posted on 09/10/2011 5:27:19 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Your yard is a little bigger than your average LA yard. :)


91 posted on 09/10/2011 5:27:20 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
A dog, who is surpised, is likely to not react to the first person, but he will react to the second (cop) and possibly attack.

That's BS.

Suppose only one person runs through a dog's yard. If your assertion is right, the dog would not react to that single intrusion. He would only react if there were a second intruder.

That runs counter to experience and common sense. Dogs react to intrusions. Period.

92 posted on 09/10/2011 5:28:18 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Lazamataz

So another idiot troll. Cool, glad to know.


93 posted on 09/10/2011 5:29:49 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Sudetenland
maybe they should police themselves

Or maybe we citizens should police them better.

In addition, citizens ought to be able to "opt out" of police protection. If you have a concern, you should be able to protect your home FROM the police.

94 posted on 09/10/2011 5:37:07 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: Salamander

Thanks, Salamander - I am the kid that said “Mom, he followed me home!”

The pound named him, and kids get a kick out of his socks - Pi woud have been a great name!

I can’t imagine my well-trained dog shot because a poorly-trained official was afraid!

We are fortunate up here to have authorities who understand that the mama moose and pre-hibernating bears are agressive even here in the city.

I carry bear spray and my .44 for our city hikes. When moose hunting, Sox stays at camp and my 40.06 and I walk the day, with an eye on the blueberry patches.

Alaska is the most wonderful place in the entire United States ... don’t get me started on the fishing - my freezer is half-full of salmon and halibut, saving room for this year’s moose!

Everyone I know has a dog, and we loves us some Iditarod in February.

Cruelty is ugly, and fear does not make a good law enforcement officer!


95 posted on 09/10/2011 5:37:28 AM PDT by AlaskaGrown
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To: Ken H

How long do you think it takes to run an average city yard?

The average man, under adrenaline, can cover about 8 yards a second.

You are talking about a 2 second window, tops.

The guy is gone.


96 posted on 09/10/2011 5:42:59 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: FreedomPoster

Cheney: “Big time.”


97 posted on 09/10/2011 5:45:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
99 percent of cops are scum.

That part is false. I'd guestimate 20% of cops are horrible.

They are not your friends.

That part is true for all cops. How can they be? They need to have SOME impartiality.

98 posted on 09/10/2011 5:47:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Lady Lucky
All these reports of cops shooting dogs -- and there are so many such incidents -- yet I don't think I've ever seen anyone suggest taking political action to remedy it. Is this not America? Start with your community or your county or your state, whatever works best for you. Get organized, get focused, and get the damn laws passed to rein them in. Better do it. And don't forget, the police don't only kill dogs. Paramilitary police, SWAT teams, actions against citizens recording police activity -- these are additional concerns. Don't just sit there typing. Do something.

Huah. GREAT POINT. Gonna do it.

99 posted on 09/10/2011 5:55:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Jonty30
I live in south central LA. My yard's pretty typical where I live.
100 posted on 09/10/2011 5:56:51 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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