Posted on 09/08/2011 4:24:58 PM PDT by upchuck
The clock is ticking for Sarah Palin, and her time is almost up.
With Mitt Romney and Rick Perry taking control of a quickly shifting Republican presidential campaign, Palin may have already missed her best chance for a late entry in the race.
"I think the window for Palin is closed, and every second that ticks off the clock things get more and more difficult for her," said Craig Robinson, a former state party political director who runs the Iowa Republican website.
"People are really ready to say this is our field of candidates, these are the people we have to choose from," he said. "They are growing frustrated with Sarah Palin's game of peekaboo."
On another visit to Iowa last weekend, she told reporters she was happy with the field of Republican candidates and quickly added: "I always think there is room for more."
But with the first nominating contest in Iowa less than five months away, little time is left to organize a national campaign, hire a staff and raise the money to compete.
The once unsettled battle for the Republican nomination to challenge President Barack Obama in 2012 has taken shape with last month's entry of Perry, the Texas governor who has roared to the top of the polls with strong conservative support.
Perry zoomed past Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, by appealing to the same coalition of social, religious and Tea Party fiscal conservatives that Palin would target if she gets in the race.
"Now that Perry and Romney have begun to draw the battle lines between them, I don't think there is any room for Palin in the campaign," said Republican strategist Rich Galen. "She's still a big personality, but she's not a potential candidate."
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Good point.
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Well I am one of the little donors keeping my powder dry hoping that she gets in. When/if she does I will give every available $ I can afford as long as I can afford to do it. I have no interest to give money to any other candidate. Maybe I am not alone.
One danger Sarah is courting is that she may be making it appear that she is indecisive.
Sorry, you are wrong. http://news.yahoo.com/palin-decide-white-house-bid-summer-022556061.html
i think most of her support would be from small donors - lots of ‘em.
Thank you, I’ve been looking for that link all night. The quote in the AP story does not appear to be a direct quote but is a paraphrase of her intentions.
Too bad you couldn't restrain yourself from trying to berate and bully everyone who disagreed with you until you had verified the facts. First, you might not be a liar, but AP certainly is. The AP "quote" is not a paraphrase at all - it is a misquote, and worse, it's a deliberate misrepresentation designed to put increased time-pressure on Palin for an early announcement and provoke these types of divisive, distracting discussions.
As I pointed out, AP is notorious for lying, just as they did for years in stories about President Bush. Do you remember the "Bush said Saddam sought to buy yellowcake from Niger" lie which was repeated over and over? He never said that. And as the video clip rawhide posted showed, Sarah Palin never said early September - the AP did.
That being said, the story made the rounds around the world exactly as I posted it and I can find no follow up denials or corrections from the Palin camp or Palin herself. If she did not intend to convey the impression that she was intending to make an announcement in late August or early September, she had an obligation to correct the story.
Nonsense, Palin had no such obligation. She merely had a choice. AP and almost every other media outlet have run literally hundreds of incorrect or deliberately dishonest stories about Palin for the last three years, and she had the choice of whether to expend endless time and energy trying to refute them all or to just ignore them.
You may not like her choices, but it's none of your or my business, and she certainly was not obligated. The only obligation in these matters is yours, mine and everyone else's, to trust nothing from the media and verify things for ourselves before going off half-cocked.
So it is past August and closing in on the end of September.
It is September 9th, which is much closer to the beginning of September than to the end. We could also say, golly, it's September, we're really closing in on Christmas, but I believe most people realize we need to deal with Halloween and Thanksgiving first. So, why the frantic hyperbole? Palin even qualified her statement with "basically" it's August or September. She didn't say it's "absolutely" August or September.
And xzins, your attempts to get P-Marlowe off the hook with: August/September is what she says in the video link. That fits with both “late summer” and with “late august/early september.” is simply incorrect. It does ot "fit". Early September is not equivalent to the whole month of September. P-Marlow has blustered his way through the discussion berating others and insisting Palin said early September. She did not - AP said it. What remains to be seen is if he's honest enough to admit he was wrong.
She is looking very indecisive.
Again, nonsense. What she is doing is exhibiting tactical skill and innovation in keeping her enemies guessing and not allowing them to dictate her game plan. Politics is war by other means, and Palin is approaching it as such. As another poster has noted, she's consistently applying the principles taught by Sun Tzu in "The Art of War".
She’s playing this game with the media and teasing everyone.
So what? They deserve all the frustration, embarrassment and ridicule she can heap upon them.
That hand has been played too long. It is past time for her to show her cards.
Your opinion, which is fine. I believe differently. I think she's running an innovative tactical and strategic guerrilla campaign which is keeping her enemies off-balance. There's no guarantee it'll work, of course, then again, it's her choice. And of course, she may not run. Why don't we just chill out and wait and see?
Finally, let's be very clear about one thing. I have not called you a liar - I merely pointed out that you hadn't done your homework, didn't have the facts from the original source, and were therefore possibly mistaken, which was confirmed by the video link which was subsequently posted.
I also pointed out that despite these lapses on your part you engaged in unjustified belligerent and derisive behavior towards your fellow Freepers.
There is an adage which goes "An honest man, once he has been shown to be in error must, by definition, cease being one, or the other". You insisted throughout the thread that Palin said early September - she didn't. You weren't lying, but you were wrong, and obnoxious about it to boot. You have been shown where you were in error, so in which category will you now choose to be...?
Let me put it this way. The AP story was misleading. Her statement during the interview was a coy evasion of the question put to her by Hannity. She hinted that she would necessarily have to make an announcement in August or September and that any delay after September would be fatal to a candidate because of the political circumstances and the fact that a candidate would have to put together an organization.
When the story came in in literally thousands and thousands of newspapers and internet sites the next day that she had said that she would announce in "late August or early September", she never said a word to correct that story, thereby clearly leaving the impression that the AP story was an accurate statement of her intentions on July 13, 2011.
That being said, I will admit that I was "wrong" when I said that she said it. But I was quoting the article that came out right after the interview. I haven't found any specific quotes where she used the language in the AP article. Nevertheless, she never "refudiated" the statement and I would have to imagine that if she is as informed as she would have us believe, that she read the article the second it came out and has had plenty of time to correct the record.
I have admitted that I was mistaken. When you post things on Free Republic, you are subject to challenge and when I am wrong, I will admit it.
FWIW, the reason I may have been considered "obnoxious" is that people were calling me a liar for simply stating what had been reported in the news and then they refused to even acknowledge the existence of the story, simply ignoring what was in the article and continuing to call me a liar.
I have requested an apology from at least one Freeper who called me a liar, and I do not expect that I will get an apology. I expect to be called a liar again for this post.
We shall see.
Ronald Reagan waited until November to declare..it didn’t hurt him.
Sarah Palin Out of Touch With Real World. Her Access to Information Restricted by Her Handlers
It's only a little bridge over a muddy stream, but until you move across it, it's not final. Once you do, it is.
OK PM, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and extend to you the tennet of the Religion forum, that we cannot read the mind of another, and say that while we both know that you were incorrect in your assertion, I cannot assert that it was a deliberate lie.
That said, I do feel that you should have known that the AP was fabricating the ‘promise’ because they have never been honest in any way when addressing anything about Sarah Palin.
I would like an explanation from you as to why you have been so willing to parrot leftist talking points; when have they ever been correct?
Catch up with the rest of the forum.
Why?
I would like an explanation from you as to why you have been so willing to parrot leftist talking points; when have they ever been correct?
What "leftist talking point" have I been parroting? My opinions are MY OPINIONS.
I personally gave up waiting for Palin to make up her mind. If you check my posting history, I was one of her staunchest supporters and I will support her if she runs in 2020, or if she runs for any other elected office. She should announce to replace John Kyle in Arizona. I will contribute to her campaign for Senator.
If the snowstorm survives in Hell, then I will volunteer on her campaign for President if she wins the nomination in 2012. But that's not going to happen.
Sarah Palin should have jumped in earlier than Perry. Perry took the wind out of her sails and now she is so far behind and her negatives are so high that she is simply out of the running by any objective standard. If she jumps in now, she will do nothing more than suck off enough of the Perry support to ensure Romney is our next nominee.
The Palin supporters who spend their time trolling the Perry Threads and calling him a RINO are doing nothing to garner support for Palin and are doing their best to garner support for Romney. Perry ain't perfect, but he's a whole lot better than McCain was and a whole lot better than Romney. He can win not only the nomination but the general. Palin can't win the nomination and can't win the General. Not in 2012 anyway. If Romney gets the nomination, I will support her for the 2016 nomination, [provided she can make up her mind to run by then] :-)
So Perry announces just a month ago and “zooms past” Romney. How would that be different for Palin? Five months before the primary and supporters are just standing by to give cash and hit the streets.
No, you weren't. You weren't quoting anything.
From your very first post at the beginning of this thread, post #16:
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To: upchuck
She said she would decide by “Late August or Early September.”
We are entering “mid-September”.
16 posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:53:28 PM by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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You threw in some quote marks but did not source them. You made no reference to any articles nor original sources, nor did you provide any links. All of that came later in the thread after you were called on it by other posters. Further, you did not mention that you were merely reporting what had been said by all those "thousands and thousands of newspapers and internet sites" - you simply stated it as fact.
I will grant that you've finally admitted you made a mistake. That's good - we all make mistakes. The important thing is to learn from them. It's also important, however, to quit trying to rationalize and justify them with irrelevancies. Your continued insistence that Palin is somehow obligated to step in and "refudiate" every lie and distortion about her from the media just because you think so is simply nonsense.
If this is how Palin's supporters are now what happens when she doesn't run?
I think she didn't jump in because she knows she can't beat obama. By being coy about her intentions she keeps her following strong which has also created some business opportunities for her. All in all pretty smart on her part.
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