Posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey
Broadcast on: MSNBC
Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT
The Candidates:
Michele Bachmann
Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Herman Cain
Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.
Newt Gingrich
Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.
Jon Huntsman
Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.
Ron Paul
Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008
Rick Perry
Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.
Mitt Romney
Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).
Rick Santorum
Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.
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Hard to communicate with many of the PFs :/
I hope all is well with your health now :)
She still looks like Rusty Staub ...
Actually, a few were zotted for even thinking about Romney within the last couple of weeks... and I agree with that. We don’t need a Libertarian... and I wish they would do the same for the loony RuPaul cult too :p
Sorry.. correction on my last post to yo... 3am here and half asleep >.<
Romney is a Dem in (R) clothing... I thought everyone knew that.. sorry about my mistake :D
Michelle really messed up on some facts and definitely got into her irrational side. Unfortunately, she blocks comments. I did email.
Perry’s executive order was showing his irrational side.
“Gardasil is so safe and effective it’s been approved for males as well to combat several other cancers linked to the HPV strains it targets.”
I’ve said it before, but when Gardasil first made news months ago (sometime last year, I think), a couple of doctors on one of the morning shows said positive and promising things but also said (at that time, anyway) that females needed to receive the vaccine in their teens to effectively protect them (for life), not wait until their adult years as that’s too late.
Now, maybe that’s changed but I’m just reporting what they said. Hence, that could also have been a factor for introducing it to girls that age in Texas.
The donation also came before the November election. Scandalous!
Merck's total donation amounted 0.05% of the money Perry raised for reelection. The executive order came the following year.
In the debate, Perry brought up a point I hadn't heard, that there had been a bill passed aimed at cancers. Curious I went looking and found that was absolutely true. I did more research.
In 2005, HB 2475 said, "This bill requires the Department of State Health Services to develop a strategic plan to eliminate mortality from cervical cancer by the year 2015…" "The strategic plan must be developed and delivered to the governor and legislature no later than December 31, 2006."
Was the plan delivered to Perry? Yes it was.
A 47 page report (Acrobat PDF) called "Texas Cervical Cancer Strategic Plan," December 2006, by Texas Department of State Health Services in collaboration with The Texas Cancer Council was delivered.
Page 8, "Executive summary" Armed with this new HPV vaccine, we can achieve the moment when we know our goal — eliminating cervical cancer death and suffering — is in reach.
Page 20, "Access to Care" - "Women must have access to cervical cancer screening to eliminate cervical cancer in Texas. The National Cancer Institute reports that groups of women with high cervical cancer mortality:...
… "Widespread vaccination is a key to reducing cervical cancer incidence in Texas"
The people who think this was something Perry cooked up in secret for crony capitalist pals at Merck in exchange for $6,000 in campaign donations are demented.
He acted in the furtherance of the legislature's public health goals by ensuring the widest dissemination of and coverage for the vaccine.
Romney had it right in the debate, Perry had the right intentions and he would do it differently if he could do it over.
Nothing's ever a Democrat's fault.
“CDC recommends it for 11-12 yo.”
I heard that also - by at least age 14-15. But it wasn’t just an issue of exposure age, but other physical factors as well for effective protection requiring that relatively early age.
“But they aren’t at the Tammy Baldwin/Barbara Milkulski/Michelle Obama f*cking gross level either.”
There’re so many others to include there as well - Patty Murray, Lisa Murkowski (scary/crazy) - and to be equal opportunity on race and religion - Shirley Jackson-Lee and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
(After I hit Post, I’ll think of a lot more, but why continue the unpleasantness, right? :-)))
It’s a troublesome mandate to many people. EO was a terrible way to go about it. Don’t you get a little tired of the wizards of smart not “thinkin’ things through” and then apologizing later? I also get tired of that famous government phrase “we’ll allow you to.”
If you want a windmill with which to tilt how about getting rid of ALL of the gun laws.
According to the Second Amendment there should not be any.
THAT is what I am a little tired of.
A mandated vaccine with an opt-out option just ain’t as big a deal as rabid, liberal driven gun control.
Ok, but we have a right to criticize, don’t we?
We don’t have to get personal, do we? I mean, idiot and all?
“msnbc online poll showed Ron Paul won the debate!”
WTF??? Is this real? Who are they kidding - their oh-so-educated, discerning viewers? /s
No wonder their ratings are in the toilet.
The “idiot” thing was an if/then proposition.
Think about it. It is only an insult if it is accurate.
“Cervical cancer is a horrible thing and HPV exposure doesn’t always occur in the teen years, it can occur at any point in a woman’s life.”
The medical explanations I’ve heard (including the CDC) is that while this is a vaccination for LIFE, it needs to be administered in a female’s teens to prevent contracting the virus in the future.
If that’s the case, timely application would seem necessary.
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