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To: Brookhaven
Wow, Erick nails it! I, too, had my own road regarding Sarah. When she gave her speech at the 2008 convention, I was electrified! Then, as I saw her doing interviews and some of her missteps, I though perhaps she was a little green, but after all, she was the VP candidate - she could grow into the job. I still liked what she said and what she stood for.

After the election, I still supported Sarah as a person and as a future presidential candidate. I figured that by 2012, she would have been re-elected as governor and would have had 6 years of executive experience to build a presidential run around.

Then the ethics charges started. They were untrue and unfair, and so Sarah stepped down rather than bankrupt herself and her family. I understood, but I was disappointed that she would not get the experience she needed to be ready to run in 2012.

Then Sarah seemed to go the celebrity route. She had her reality TV show, her Fox News gig, her Facebook page, her books. I had no problem with any of that - I bought "Going Rogue" as soon as it came out, and I signed up with her Facebook page. Based on her actions, I assumed she was going to take the Reagan path - spend her time working for the party, fully develop her political philosophy, and find some way to add to her resume - run for the Senate, serve in a cabinet post, something like that. Then, after a few more years, she would be ready to try again. Remember that Reagan waited 8 years after his first attempt to try running for the presidency again - during that time, he served 6 more years as governor.

When it became clear that Sarah was seriously considering a run this time around, I began to back off. This was long before Perry was in the race, and I wasn't sure who I would support (just not Huntsman, Paul or Romney). I don't think she has a broad enough base of support, her negatives are still too high, and I don't think she has enough experience for the job. Until recently, my attitude was that I would support her if she got the nomination, but I didn't think she could make it that far.

But then came my experience with the Palinistas. These are the people like Brices, Diogenesis, South40, Red South, et al. They go around to every thread about another candidate just to trash that candidate, and they threaten to have a poster banned if they dare come onto a Palin thread and say anything negative about her. They truly behave in a cultish fashion. They can't just support their candidate and try to persuade you why she would be the right choice - they try to destroy any opposing candidates and any of their supporters. Instead of broadening Palin's appeal, they are chasing away the very people they would need to support her if she won the nomination.

So, sadly, I have now gone from the point where, while I didn't think Sarah was the best choice this cycle and I didn't think she could win, but I would support her if she got the nomination; to where I will actively oppose her nomination, and if she wins the nomination I will sit the election out. And it is because I don't want her supporters anywhere near the levers of power. If this is the type of supporter she inspires, then that says a lot of negative things about her candidacy as well.

88 posted on 09/07/2011 11:21:16 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Brices Crossroads; Diogenesis; South40; RED SOUTH
These are the people like Brices, Diogenesis, South40, Red South, et al.

See #88 above if you want to see a PDS'er whining about you.

94 posted on 09/07/2011 11:27:12 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: CA Conservative

How utterly sad that you let the actions and words of others control your own decisions.


95 posted on 09/07/2011 11:28:17 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: CA Conservative

and if she wins the nomination I will sit the election out. And it is because I don’t want her supporters anywhere near the levers of power. If this is the type of supporter she inspires, then that says a lot of negative things about her candidacy as well.
______________________________________________________________

You would rather Obama’s supporters?

Says a lot about you.


96 posted on 09/07/2011 11:28:17 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: CA Conservative
I don't mind Rick Perry, it's his worshipful supporters that disgust me.

PerryKrishnas. All of them.

They go around to every thread about another candidate just to trash that candidate, and they threaten to have a poster banned if they dare come onto a Perry thread and say anything negative about him. They truly behave in a cultish fashion. They can't just support their candidate and try to persuade you why he would be the right choice - they try to destroy any opposing candidates and any of their supporters. Instead of broadening Perry's appeal, they are chasing away the very people they would need to support him if he won the nomination.

So, sadly, I have now gone from the point where, while I didn't think Rick was the best choice this cycle and I didn't think he could win, but I would support him if he got the nomination; to where I will actively oppose his nomination, and if he wins the nomination I will sit the election out. And it is because I don't want his supporters anywhere near the levers of power. If this is the type of supporter he inspires, then that says a lot of negative things about his candidacy as well.

108 posted on 09/07/2011 11:38:03 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: CA Conservative; onyx

>> Based on her actions, I assumed she was going to take the Reagan path - spend her time working for the party, fully develop her political philosophy, and find some way to add to her resume - run for the Senate, serve in a cabinet post, something like that. Then, after a few more years, she would be ready to try again.

My personal humble opinion is that you actually have her pegged pretty well. She is one of the shrewdest (and most innovative) of the fresh conservative faces I have ever seen.

>> But then came my experience with the Palinistas... They truly behave in a cultish fashion.... they try to destroy any opposing candidates and any of their supporters... I don’t want her supporters anywhere near the levers of power. If this is the type of supporter she inspires, then that says a lot of negative things about her candidacy as well.

I wouldn’t let a few knuckleheads color your opinion of Sarah Palin. Truth is, *most* of her supporters here — even the highly partisan ones — behave with class. As an example here on FR I’d offer “onyx” — and there are many others. It’s just that the most outrageous of the Palinistas stick in your mind.

I’m a Perry supporter because, as a pragmatist, I recognize that he’s the best candidate in the field, by a clear margin. I don’t think Palin will run this time around; if she does, depending on how and when she steps in, I’ll consider switching support. However, my hat is off to Sarah Palin because, in or out, she is keeping attention focused in the right place, and that’s a valuable service.

Just my 2c

FRegards


112 posted on 09/07/2011 11:42:11 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: CA Conservative; Brices Crossroads; Diogenesis; South40; RED SOUTH
These are the people like Brices, Diogenesis, South40, Red South, et al.

You owe your fellow FReepers a courtesy ping.

So, sadly, I have now gone from the point where, while I didn't think Sarah was the best choice this cycle and I didn't think she could win, but I would support her if she got the nomination; to where I will actively oppose her nomination, and if she wins the nomination I will sit the election out. And it is because I don't want her supporters anywhere near the levers of power. If this is the type of supporter she inspires, then that says a lot of negative things about her candidacy as well.

RLY? Free Republic is a conservative forum. Sarah Palin is a thoroughly vetted TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVE, yet you will work against her getting the nomination "because of some of her supporters of all of her supporters?"

This type of thinking is not going to get us anywhere near our goals, which is this author's point.

It's wonderful to support the candidate of our choice, but how foolish is it to pout and threaten such childishness 14 months out from the election and way ahead of the first primary in Iowa?

Free Republic is not going to burn down over Perry/Palin wars, so I suggest that the flame bait posts cease and cool down.

Discussions and vetting of the candidates are one thing, but calling out posters are quite another.

Governor Perry is currently ahead in the polls, so most of the articles are about him. Most are good, some are not and the truth is likely found somewhere in between or some in each one. It's called the vetting process. He's not going to get a free ride or pass. That's not the way it works.

He's also not going to get *The Palin treatment*. No other candidate ever will and her mistreatment will continue. Peeping Joe McGuiness's book will soon hit the bookshelves.

Be well.

114 posted on 09/07/2011 11:43:57 AM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! If you support SARAH PALIN & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: CA Conservative; Brices Crossroads; Diogenesis; South40; RED SOUTH

FR Ping etiquette?!

BTW, if ‘you’re’ candidate doesn’t get nomination, and another candidate does.. instead of sitting it out, why don’t you at least do a write in of your candidate?

That is what I will do in that situation, IF that is to happen.


116 posted on 09/07/2011 11:45:03 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: CA Conservative

Maybe you should read post 104 too. FR is a family. I wonder if we wouldn’t be throwing Thanksgiving dishes at each other sometimes. Most of us are here because we are diehard conservatives who are also political junkies who just LOVE to argue politics. That is just the way it is.


117 posted on 09/07/2011 11:45:03 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: CA Conservative

“I will actively oppose her nomination, and if she wins the nomination I will sit the election out. And it is because I don’t want her supporters anywhere near the levers of power. If this is the type of supporter she inspires, then that says a lot of negative things about her candidacy as well.”

Nothing like crap calling a fart stinky.

LLS


141 posted on 09/07/2011 12:02:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: CA Conservative

Is your failure to be courteous to people you backstab
without notice from Texas or California?

You are quite impetuous, too; matching your inaccuracies.


162 posted on 09/07/2011 12:30:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: CA Conservative; Bikkuri; Virginia Ridgerunner; onyx

CA Conservative, you and your RINOs don’t
become conservative by labeling yourselves as such.

And your vicious attacks on Gov. Palin for your RINOs
is not appropriate at a conservative web site.

======== thanks for the pings, FRiends.


164 posted on 09/07/2011 12:33:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: CA Conservative; onyx; Jim Robinson

>> “I will actively oppose her nomination, and if she wins the nomination I will sit the election out. And it is because I don’t want her supporters anywhere near the levers of power.” <<

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Thanks for coming out of the closet CA, but most of us knew what kind of a steaming pile you were anyway.

Your comments have absolutely glowed with hatred of the woman that will be our next president, and all who support her.


212 posted on 09/07/2011 2:13:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: CA Conservative
So, sadly, I have now gone from the point where, while I didn't think Sarah was the best choice this cycle and I didn't think she could win, but I would support her if she got the nomination; to where I will actively oppose her nomination, and if she wins the nomination I will sit the election out. And it is because I don't want her supporters anywhere near the levers of power. If this is the type of supporter she inspires, then that says a lot of negative things about her candidacy as well.

Plenty of nutty Perry supporters. I would never base my decision about Perry because of those nutty supporters.

Your post says more about you...

221 posted on 09/07/2011 3:09:32 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: CA Conservative; Brices Crossroads; RED SOUTH; South40
Another RINO troll smoked out.

Way to go Brices Crossroads;Red South;South40.

Consider yourselves *highly* commended.

Cheers!

265 posted on 09/10/2011 10:37:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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