Posted on 09/04/2011 10:40:02 PM PDT by Kevmo
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This was published on August 24th on a blog called Mynxx. This isn’t news either.
Does this really belong on Free Republic?
Nothing new from you, just more seagulling.
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You need to stop posting these under news, these are blogs
This guy is a total clown. He's essentially saying, "If you don't blindly believe, you're the one with a problem."
YOUR problem, Stremmenos, is that the greatest scientific experiment in the world is completely worthless if it cannot be duplicated by independent labs. Complain all you want about detractors, it's that simple. You gotta prove it, buddy, and you haven't, at all.
How nice that I can buy a copy for 28 cents. But shipping kills the deal.
And not even good ones, this is a total line of crap. Cold fusion has had 20 years to show something and has produced zero results.
From a pure research perspective, I hope they find something, but I am not holding my breath for free energy.
People like Rossi are running legit researchers away, could be some ground breaking physics at play.
Right now, it is pretty much a carnival curiosity.
Squawk... more seagulling.
could be some ground breaking physics at play.
***Then LENR is worth pursuing, rather than seagulling on cold fusion threads.
So, hit the "Abuse" button instead of blathering.
"I" find Stremenos comments very much to the point. YMMV.
LOL. The man is a degreed, tenured physicist who is also politically astute enough to serve as his country's ambassador, and HE is a total clown?? And you completely misrepresent what he has said, which is, basically, STUDY THE DATA. With an open mind. Since I "have" taken the time to actually study the data and videos from the demonstrations, and also read the (mostly) ridiculous criticisms of same, he is right on target.
LOL. Which statement proves your complete ignorance of the subject, both the science, and the people involved. Stremenos is a university professor of physics who served as Greece's ambassador to Italy, so he is well versed in both science and "political reality". He has also participated directly in the various demonstrations, and seen the evidence first-hand AS IT WAS GATHERED.
And what he is saying is "STUDY THE DATA WITH AN OPEN MIND".
Which is pretty much the same thing "I" have been saying on all these threads. I "have" studied those reports and videos, and have followed most of the (completely uninformed) criticisms here and elsewhere, and what most of the critics have proven is that they are idiots who don't know their "waste emitter portals" from a hole in the ground. Certainly they CANNOT have actually looked at the data.
Well said.
Let’s just for argument’s sake assume that Rossi, Focardi and their associates have developed a revolutionary new device that creates virtually unlimited quantities of energy that will profoundly revolutionize society itself. What difference then does it make if there are skeptics? If it works, it works, and they’ll be rich men and us skeptics will have to eat crow. However the attitude on these e-cat threads is either you buy into it, or you are some sort of heretic, demeaning and debasing the heroic efforts of these tireless geniuses. Why do you feel the need to so adamantly defend something that if it were true, defends itself? If it’s true, surely it doesn’t need the Kevmo/WW cheering section. No one had to defend the honor of vulcanized rubber, or the bessemer process. They simply were demonstrable technologies that were self evident even to the layperson. But this one is different. It needs barkers like yourself to protect its virtue from the foulness of the naysayers as you like to label them. The whole impassioned defense thing is unreal and suggests a certain pathology on your part.
LOL. The ONLY thing I have ever advocated on any of these cold fusion threads is that the posters take the time to actually study the available evidence. I see no indication that either you or "Moonpie" have ever done so.
And my only "impassioned defense" is that one draw conclusions based on data, and not supposition.
Do Rossi's demonstrations rise to the level of "scientific proof".....no. But neither is that data the same thing as "no evidence", which is what most of the naysayers claim.
And MOST of the even supposedly "scientific" criticism is simply wrong.
My "real-life" area of scientific expertise is analytical chemistry, and specifically of instrument design. As such, I have real expert knowledge of designing measurement systems for processes (I spent 20 years doing that for one of the world's largest chemical companies). Rossi's reactors are virtual duplicates of what you will find in pretty much any engineering research or process design laboratory. I've designed and installed measurement systems for MANY such. And what my expertise tells me is that the people who put the instrumentation on Rossi's system are NOT amateurs, and knew precisely what they were doing.
In some cases (Levi's 18-hour "no-steam" study), the measurement methods were a bit primitive (his method of measuring water flow rate), but they will certainly develop sufficiently accurate data to answer the question he was investigating. Again, not to the level of "peer-reviewed science", but certainly good enough to make management and financial decisions on.
I've seen mega-million dollar process plants that got their starts with no better initial data.
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