Posted on 09/03/2011 4:15:57 PM PDT by Tempest
So what does a complete review of Perry's record reveal? As it turns out, he sent a letter during his tenure as Texas Agricultural Commissioner that praised Hillary Clinton's 1993 health care reform efforts. "I think your efforts in trying to reform the nation's health care system are most commendable," he wrote. "I would like to request that the task force give particular consideration to the needs of the nation's farmers... Rural populations have a high proportion of uninsured people, rising health care costs, and often experience lack of services." He concluded by noting, "your efforts are worthy, and I hope you will remember this constituency as the task force progresses. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of any assistance."
Dan Amira at New York magazine dismisses the story and mocks the Daily Caller for publishing it. "He didn't even say anything about the substance of Clinton's health-care reform plan," Amira writes, "just that it was 'commendable' to try to reform the system in some way, which is hardly controversial."
I disagree.
Clinton's efforts were widely criticized by Republicans at the time, and the substance of her reforms obviously constituted a substantial federal intervention into health care, the very thing Perry now claims is obviously unconstitutional and ruinous to liberty. (And yes, Clinton's plan did call for both an employer mandate to provide health care and an individual mandate to be covered.)
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
You’ve already been shown to be an unrepentant liar with your post.
Perry’s letter pre dates the clinton health care package and nothing you can do or say can change that.
May God have mercy on you because mercy is the withholding of justly deserved consequences.
Let me make this clear for you Perrybots. I have yet to support any candidate. BUT I DO OPPOSE THE RINO RICK PERRY.
I’ll say it in Texan so YA’ALLZ CAN UNDERSTAND IT. YA ALLZ have an unhealthy devotion to Rick Perry that anyone that opposes him must be assigned a candidate to attack.
YA ALLZ CAN GO AHEAD AND START HATIN ON SARAH PALIN. BUT IT WILL ONLY MAKE YOU LOOK STUPID.
Because if you do that I could just accuse you of supporting Obama, like you do to me. Opposing your candidate does not make me pro-Obama, it makes me anti-RINO. Do I make myself clear.
Let’s see....even in 1993 I knew the Clintons were trouble, partially because I the Little Rock newspaper was delivered to my house on behalf of the former owner.
I’m sure Perry knew about the Clintons, too.
And as a Southern, Western gentleman, I’m sure that it was in his nature to be polite and courtious in his correspondence, especially when he’s asking for consideration for his concerns.
Hillarycare did not yet exist beyond a draft at the point Perry writes to her.
Kicking hillery in the shin verbally would, and is, a stupid move if you want something from her.
No more. No less.
And if you’re going to criticize Perry for the words he uses, then your words are equally open for examination, right?
As you’ve conceded, he did not endorse hillarycare as the thread claims.
You can try to twist his statement into an endorsement of HillaryCare if you want. You'll probably even find a few on here willing to believe it.
It is an argument with zero merit though. I'm moving on.
Sorry, I think an official letter from a state-level commissioner merits somewhat more consideration to word choice than a thread comment...Just guess we disagree.
Did he endorse hillarycare? (which did not yet exist)
That is the question, isn’t it?
Thanks for the ping to this thread and posts (I stopped at cripplecreek’s post #67 to go over to ESPN and check out the Tiger’s victory...I’ll be back). Great thread so far. Thanks to all posters.
(I just got home from work)
LOL, well put.
Stay cool FRiend. I am sure that over the years you have been here, you have probably seen similar (or worse) ranting, raving, accusing, snarking, etc., than this before.
Gold Miners have to sift through a lot of mud before they find the precious metal. Any gold they find varies from tiny specs to good sized nuggets. And they have to be wise enough, and experienced enough, to know real gold from Fools gold.
Every so often, a valuable "nugget" of information (positive or negative) about one of the candidates appears out of the muck, and is useful for folks like you and I who are looking for them.
Undoubtedly, some posters will go over the stated line for this forum, and the Sheriff and his Deputies will take action to run (zot) them out of town. The Sheriff and his Deputies have seen every example of Troll, Agenda-Poster, Spammer, Know-It-All, etc., there is.
And just about the time those individuals think they are "getting away with it", lightning strikes in the saloon, leaving only a pair of empty boots (or sneakers) with smoke rolling out of them. Folks like us who come to FR for information will, at times, grow weary waiting for a "cleanup on aisle 5" moment, but inevitably it always happens.
Having said all that, FR is like no other place on the inter-webs, and I'll be here to take advantage of a place that provides the best information to Conservatives, bar none.
May the Lord Bless you and yours.
Nice logo, did you do it up yourself?
Did he endorse hillarycare? (which did not yet exist)
That is the question, isn’t it?
This is getting really old. OK, In my opinion:
1. Hillary care NEVER existed....it was a plan, an initiative in 1993. It was as not ever passed into law—I don’t think it was ever voted on....Read my previous post, I think he was far more supportive than I would have liked....OK???
2. NO, really that is not the question in my opinion.
The questions are: Is he a true conservative? What is his record? Based on his record, what will he do or not do in office. Is he going to be a president that can lead this country out of the very troubled place we are headed if not in.
Interesting, TM7. Thanks for the post.
Not if he doesn't close the border for one thing....and surely not if he continues to cater to the Muslim population......
Thank you, I enjoyed your perspective. :) Agreed, on all points.
May the Lord Bless you and yours as well!
No, you don’t make yourself “clear” at all. Indeed, every post you make has you sounding more and more deranged.
Perry is a 10 year governor and that says something about his popularity in the state and the climate in the state says something about his effectiveness as governor.
Texas is a strongly Red state now, unlike when Bush was gov.
Obama hates Perry and hates Texas. Perry has confronted Obama personally on immigration and done battle with the EPA over environmental regulations that stangle jobs with little or no positive impact on the environment.
The job I have today did not exist last year, it is newly created and considered well paying, not the minimum wage or governemnt jobs some Perry critics claim is all that exists here.
There are no state income taxes but property taxes and sales taxes can be steep in places.
The cost of living (aka housing) is better here than in most of the nation and there are many, many, good jobs waiting to be filled and solid companies that want to do more business but need more people to work.
Perry has effectively dealt with political foes and has built a solid Republican/conservative government that should last for years after he leaves.
Is Perry the Ultimate Conservative to match every ideal that the most narrowly minded purists seem to demand?
Probably not...no, absolutely not.
But check out his book, and take some of the most outrageous criticism with a grain or three of salt.
Thanks again for the ping, South40. I just finished reading every post. Great thread. Thanks to all posters.
You are welcome PG. :-)
Yes. I think you have hit on an issue that is important. As one tries to gather information about the candidates, sometimes it's not always so much that they may have made a misstep in their decision making, but rather, was it a one-time incident, or does it accurately reflect their worldview, and how they would approach similar problems (on a federal level, with much more power to impact us).
For example (so far - to me) Gov. Perry's record sometimes appears to indicate a "this is the way it's going to be, regardless of what people want" approach, and yet, his supporters have been posting some "rest of the story" information that would seem to indicate that he does indeed think through issues, and respond to his constituents.
So, at this juncture, I look forward to running across more information about Gov. Perry so that I can, with some level of confidence, place in either his Pro, or his Con, column. Hopefully, by the end of the primary period, everything about him will have hit FR, and have been hashed out enough to know all we can about him.
The same is true for Gov. Palin (and any other candidate that seems viable).
Yeah, looks like the diehard PDS tagteam is down to 4 or 5 and hasn’t been able to find anything new and beleivable. Only hope will be if ronpaul’s Seting Perry ad comes through. Wasn’t that also weeks back and no takers other than Deb Medina and Bill White?
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