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To: Windflier
Do you honestly believe that Palin supporters are the type of people who sit at their computers, dishonestly gaming online polls? If they were, she'd win every one of them, hands down. Well, she doesn't, so there goes that little theory.

Yes, her hardcore supporters will do whatever it takes. All it requires is one topic on a Palin friendly website for people to spam a poll. Heck, we used to Freep polls all the time right here. Don't tell me you don't believe people will spam them if they are designed in such a way that is possible.

You cited a garbage, unscientific poll, stop defending it. You just make yourself sound ridiculous.

The polling business is corrupt.

Nonsense. Of course there are some media sponsored polls to be skeptical of. But almost all polling regarding Governor Palin show the same thing - even from pollsters with a good track record, Palin is not popular and most Republicans simply do not want her to run.

There are lots of other ways to measure and gauge voter opinion. You'd be better served if you used them.

No, there actually isn't. You can't gauge voter opinion based on crowds or fanatical supporters. If that were true, McGovern would have beat Nixon in 72'. Ron Paul has fanatical support among his followers. They show up at every straw poll, send in a boat load of money, spam forums endlessly, yet the truth is Ron Paul has zero chance of ever winning the GOP nomination because despite his highly energetic and vocal supporters - he just isn't very popular and polls prove this.

166 posted on 09/05/2011 7:43:29 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Yes, her hardcore supporters will do whatever it takes. All it requires is one topic on a Palin friendly website for people to spam a poll. Heck, we used to Freep polls all the time right here. Don't tell me you don't believe people will spam them if they are designed in such a way that is possible.

If what you say is true, how is it that Sarah Palin isn't in first place in every poll, scientific, or otherwise? You can't have it both ways. Either Palin's supporters are "spamming" every poll with her name in it, or they are not. Which is it?

You cited a garbage, unscientific poll, stop defending it.

First of all, I don't accept your premise of what's scientific, and what is not. It's been proven time and again on this site that so-called "scientific" polls are routinely massaged and manipulated in such a way, as to produce a desired result. That's a fact, and takes the air out of your theory, which is what you're apparently basing your entire opinion of Palin on.

As for your casual disregard for every other observable metric for measuring a candidate's popularity, that's simply your attempt to fend off other forms of measurable data that threaten to put the lie to your assertions.

Do what you like. Trust the poll meisters to tell you the truth if you must, but in my opinion, they're as compromised as the MSM.

168 posted on 09/05/2011 1:02:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Longbow1969

Here’s another one of those metrics I spoke of:

Tea Party Express: Manchester NH/ Sarah Palin speech: LIVE THREAD....... 546 posts

LIVE: Tim Scott Hosts Gov. Rick Perry Live (South Carolina)Thread........ 80 posts

Ignore these sorts of observations if you will, but you’re only narrowing your vision.


169 posted on 09/05/2011 2:05:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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