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To: lonestar
It's 1200 to 1500 miles long...and all kinds of terrain. Have you ever been to Big Bend? It would be a stupid waste of $$$...and wouldn't work!

Berlin's 110 mile wall worked. Israel's 500 mile wall works well. China's 31,000 mile Great Wall did it's job. Yeah, better to waste $$$ on welfare, health care, food, education, housing, garbage disposal, road traffic, pollution, courts, prisons, potable water, and jobs those lazy Americans don't want, huh.

152 posted on 09/03/2011 2:25:55 PM PDT by bgill (just getting tagline ready for 6 months after you vote in Perry - Tried to warn you he's a RINO.)
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To: bgill

It’s about fence DESIGN but they never mention this.


155 posted on 09/03/2011 2:27:07 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: bgill
Berlin's 110 mile wall worked. Israel's 500 mile wall works well. China's 31,000 mile Great Wall did it's job.

Berlin's wall and Israel's wall worked because they're relatively short in length, and the political will to enforce what the wall represented was not lacking.

China's 'Ten thousand mile wall', as they call it, did not work over the course of it's two thousand year history, despite the will to use it. It was too long to defend, expensive to build and man, there were ways around it, and in the long run, relentless offense always beats a strong defense.

An American wall would be thousands of miles long, and ultimately be manned by American governments that don't have the will of the East Germans, Israelis or feudal Chinese.

There's better ways to get rid of illegals, and it's cracking down on the business that hire them, tightening down on IDs, and generally making it more attractive for them to go back to Mexico than stay here.

Go on the offense against the incentive. Raising the bar to get to the incentive is a losing game.

179 posted on 09/03/2011 2:40:15 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: bgill

No, you just put that money to boots on the ground.

A fence won’t work. You still need boots on the ground even with a fence or else the fence is nothing more than a fake obstacle.

A fence is a moronic waste of money. I’m surprised there’s this many people on FR that would support something that dumb and ineffective.


181 posted on 09/03/2011 2:41:15 PM PDT by rjeffries
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To: bgill
The Berlin Wall had armed guards the entire length. Apples to oranges.

A wall wouldn't work! ...so why build one?

193 posted on 09/03/2011 2:49:08 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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