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Repeal Gun Free School Zone Act
firearmscoalition.org ^ | 6 August, 2011 | Jeff Knox

Posted on 09/03/2011 1:12:12 PM PDT by marktwain

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The Gun Free School Zones Act must be one of the worst pieces of federal legislation ever passed.
1 posted on 09/03/2011 1:12:14 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Ron Paul is the best.

Why not also repeal the 1968 Gun Control Act while you are at it?


2 posted on 09/03/2011 1:17:30 PM PDT by CGalen
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To: CGalen

...Bravo, Rep. Paul!!!


3 posted on 09/03/2011 1:19:33 PM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: CGalen
Why not also repeal the 1968 Gun Control Act while you are at it?

It would be a good compromise postion to repeal the GC68. We can accept that as a compromise instead of disbanding the BATF.

4 posted on 09/03/2011 1:21:35 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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One thousand feet is almost 3 city blocks, and the zone begins at the edge of school property, not the door of the school. In metropolitan areas these zones often overlap to the extent that lawful travel while armed is completely impossible.

Which is EXACTLY the goal of these fargin traitors!

5 posted on 09/03/2011 1:23:09 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: marktwain

Gun free zones are baited fields.


6 posted on 09/03/2011 1:49:32 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: marktwain
My family and some family friends used to meet up at a school on the opening day of pheasant season to go hunting. The school held a pancake breakfast every year on the opening day of the season as a fund raiser for the district. There were dozens of trucks in the parking lot with dog crates in the back. I'm sure all those trucks also had shotguns in them. It's hard to imagine my family, friends and all those innocent people taking part in that school fund raiser being arrested and thrown in jail.
7 posted on 09/03/2011 2:18:50 PM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: Happy Rain

“What does anyone need with a gun at a school,” asks the Liberal.

The answer: “Beslan” - go Google Beslan”.


8 posted on 09/03/2011 2:25:46 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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My family and some family friends used to meet up at a school on the opening day of pheasant season to go hunting. The school held a pancake breakfast every year on the opening day of the season as a fund raiser for the district. There were dozens of trucks in the parking lot with dog crates in the back. I'm sure all those trucks also had shotguns in them. It's hard to imagine my family, friends and all those innocent people taking part in that school fund raiser being arrested and thrown in jail.

Exactly. This law is a direct attack on the American gun culture, the culture of freedom and limited government.

9 posted on 09/03/2011 2:30:26 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Usually_Disappointed
My family and some family friends used to meet up at a school on the opening day of pheasant season to go hunting.

I'll go ya one better. We had a range in the school basement where we could practice after school hours. No one thought it at all odd.

Regards,
GtG

10 posted on 09/03/2011 3:41:59 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Happy Rain
"Gun free zones are baited fields."

Agreed. (See my tagline.)

11 posted on 09/03/2011 4:25:44 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: marktwain

Serious question.....

Texas law .... Defines the term “premises”.

http://chlwiki.com/index.php?title=TPC_46.035

My CHL classes an the definition of “premises” under Texas Penal Code 46.035 states if I’m reading this correct that I can leave my firearm in my private vehicle if I’m attending a high school football game in the school parking lot. Also my local polling place is said high school.

This federal feral bullsh*t gun free zone trump Texas state law or not ?

...... Seems like entrapment by one or the other law / rule ?

Got to go see my little-Gator Tuesday morning.... Damn polidiots !

Comments an opinions on this Texas CHL law.

Thanks to all ahead of time .


12 posted on 09/03/2011 7:43:21 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos; OneWingedShark
well BrotherSquantos, i will not attempt to clarify a legal definition after the BJ-clinton 'is' fiasco...

Sir shark enjoys these examples of legal trappings and may have 2 cents to add...

as far as ky CDW permit, instructions stated that it 'allowed' the possession in the vehicle while on school grounds, in a sense, its the trump i reckon...i *think* OC w/o a permit [legal in ky] is still a no-no though...

13 posted on 09/03/2011 9:33:32 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: CGalen

I think we would have better luck with a simple bill ignoring all the individual crybaby issues:

The Constitutional gun act:


Recognizing the clear prohibition against Federal gun laws in the Federal Constitution. All existing Federal laws related to guns are hereby expunged.

Don’t bother trying to repeal each and every act, it would take too much time and step upon too many touchy freely issues. Just repeal em all together.


14 posted on 09/04/2011 12:48:27 AM PDT by Monorprise
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Don’t bother trying to repeal each and every act, it would take too much time and step upon too many touchy freely issues. Just repeal em all together.

I like your idea. Maybe we could get President Palin to push it for us!

15 posted on 09/04/2011 9:39:10 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Gilbo_3

TX State Constitution
AART 1, SEC. 23. — Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power by law to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.

Given that the legislature may regulate the WEARING of arms, the State cannot in in any given situation prohibit both open and concealed carry without violating the first clause. And in no way does the above prohibit places one may KEEP arms (such as in vehicles) nor authorize the legislature to create prohibited places.


16 posted on 09/04/2011 2:41:08 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: marktwain

“”Don’t bother trying to repeal each and every act, it would take too much time and step upon too many touchy freely issues. Just repeal em all together.”

I like your idea. Maybe we could get President Palin to push it for us!”

I seriously doubt there ever will be a president Palin, but that don’t mean Palin couldn’t push for it with just as much effect in her present capacity.

Its nuts to go after each and every federal gun law ever made. They are all equally unauthorized and they all equally need to be unequivocally expunged as such. Just becase some of them were passed for touchy feely but ultimatly Failed and unjustifyable reasons makes no diffrence.

We are only shooting ourselfs in the foot by trying to repeal em one at a time. It will NEVER happen, and even if it did happen it would happen only so rarely that we could never repeal enough of em fast enough to keep up with the rate at which new ones will be created.

Repeal em all together with simple language reflecting the 2nd amendment and dare the democrats and RINO republicans to vote against it. The Federal Government has no business passing laws trying to restrict our right to keep and bare arms period.

If leftist want their population to be disarmed let them disarm em at the state level. They will have about as much success in disarming the criminals.


17 posted on 09/04/2011 3:30:18 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: OneWingedShark

“TX State Constitution
AART 1, SEC. 23. — Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power by law to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.

Given that the legislature may regulate the WEARING of arms, the State cannot in in any given situation prohibit both open and concealed carry without violating the first clause. And in no way does the above prohibit places one may KEEP arms (such as in vehicles) nor authorize the legislature to create prohibited places.”

Can’t say I find that interpenetration particularly disagreeable.

Although I would point out that “the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.”

does seem to express a power to prohibit the wearing of arms in specific locations or manners.

Truth be known I think We should amend the Texas Constitution to be a bit more strait forward.


18 posted on 09/04/2011 3:34:15 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

>Can’t say I find that interpenetration particularly disagreeable.
>Although I would point out that “the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.”
>does seem to express a power to prohibit the wearing of arms in specific locations or manners.
>Truth be known I think We should amend the Texas Constitution to be a bit more strait forward.

I do like New Mexico’s Art II Sec 6:
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms. (As amended November 2, 1971 and November 2, 1986.)

Too bad that the State and Municipal courts flout this regularly (by prohibiting weapons in their courtrooms), I’ve been tossing around the idea of open-carrying into one and then countersuing under various laws, 18USC 241/242 spring to mind.

Perhaps a better version would be something like:
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.


19 posted on 09/04/2011 5:45:52 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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20 posted on 09/05/2011 5:14:23 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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