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To: rovenstinez

“...from some of the more quiet people who never get polled.”

I don’t think you are more likely to be polled if you stand in the street, shout and wave your hands.

I think the numbers are probably not far off. Note they move this way shortly after R’s believe they have (1) A not Romney, who can (2) Beat Zero, and who has (3) Experience running a state.

Conservative R’s, who are generally savvier politically, realize that a second attractive conservative candidate with high negatives makes it more likely Romney will win the nomination. So I’m not surprised with the numbers.

I need to get to know Perry better. But at this moment I would be delighted with either Perry or Palin our candidate. On a can-win criterion, I think Palin has a much steeper hill to climb than Perry against Zero. But we will know more about that in three months.


72 posted on 09/02/2011 7:40:42 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

But at this moment I would be delighted with either Perry or Palin our candidate.


I’d be content with Perry, delighted (but nervous without seeing an extended primary campaign and declining negatives) with Palin.


113 posted on 09/02/2011 8:29:04 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: ModelBreaker

“On a can-win criterion, I think Palin has a much steeper hill to climb than Perry against Zero. But we will know more about that in three months.”

Interesting....The other day I listened to Perry speaking, closed my eyes and heard GWB. I think that Perry affords Obama with another opportunity to run against Bush....something he has been doing since entering the White House.......Now instead of “Bush’s fault” it’ll be “do you want to give Bush’s failed economic policies, that I have been struggling to reverse since taking office, another shot at destroying hard working American families like yours?

This line of reasoning will not work with conservatives, nor many republicans, but may in fact help energize his 2008 base/voters, and reinvolve the squishy middle, which is the whole point of this exercise.....

Even now Obama is attempting to shift the blame for his failed administration on the newly minted Republican House of Representatives......That’s all next week’s “Jobs” address to the joint session of Congress will be.......A campaign speech blaming the Republicans........

Palin’s association with Bush on the other hand is tenative at best....they’re both Republicans (duh)..... I think her supporters enthusiam will offset in the other direction any advantage Obama would have had running against a GWB sound alike.


133 posted on 09/02/2011 9:13:22 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: ModelBreaker

“On a can-win criterion, I think Palin has a much steeper hill to climb than Perry against Zero. But we will know more about that in three months.”

Interesting....The other day I listened to Perry speaking, closed my eyes and heard GWB. I think that Perry affords Obama with another opportunity to run against Bush....something he has been doing since entering the White House.......Now instead of “Bush’s fault” it’ll be “do you want to give Bush’s failed economic policies, that I have been struggling to reverse since taking office, another shot at destroying hard working American families like yours?

This line of reasoning will not work with conservatives, nor many republicans, but may in fact help energize his 2008 base/voters, and reinvolve the squishy middle, which is the whole point of this exercise.....

Even now Obama is attempting to shift the blame for his failed administration on the newly minted Republican House of Representatives......That’s all next week’s “Jobs” address to the joint session of Congress will be.......A campaign speech blaming the Republicans........

Palin’s association with Bush on the other hand is tenative at best....they’re both Republicans (duh)..... I think her supporters enthusiam will offset in the other direction any advantage Obama would have had running against a GWB sound alike.


134 posted on 09/02/2011 9:13:22 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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