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Nanny State? Calif. May Force Parents To Pay Babysitters Workers’ Comp, OT
CBS Los Angeles ^ | August 31, 2011

Posted on 09/02/2011 6:04:14 AM PDT by artichokegrower

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — The next time you plan a movie night without the kids, you may have to provide more than just pizza for your babysitter.

Democratic lawmakers in Sacramento are fast-tracking a bill that would require workers’ compensation benefits, meal breaks and paid vacation time for all “domestic employees”, including nannies, housekeepers and even babysitters.

Assembly Bill 889, authored by Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco), has already cleared the Assembly and is expected to receive overwhelming support from Senate Democrats, who control both houses of the California legislature.

Under AB 889, parents legally become household “employers” and are obligated to pay at least minimum wage to any sitter over the age of 18 (family members are exempt).

In addition, the bill would require parents to provide substitute caregivers every two hours to cover rest and meal breaks, pay for any overtime worked, and provide a line-item pay stub showing gross and net wages earned, total hours worked, deductions and both employer and employee Social Security numbers.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab889; ammiano; babysitters; housekeepers; nannies; parenting; parents; regulation; tomammiano; workerscomp; workmanscomp; workscomp
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Kinda unfair in that Tom Ammiano will never need a babysitter.
1 posted on 09/02/2011 6:04:16 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

From San Francisco.
Can I guess why ?


2 posted on 09/02/2011 6:06:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: artichokegrower

Senate Democrats control both houses? No wonder California is so messed up.


3 posted on 09/02/2011 6:06:39 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: artichokegrower

This means that no one is going to hire an adult to watch the kids, just older kids probably.


4 posted on 09/02/2011 6:08:25 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: artichokegrower

Which Union are the babysitters joining? Another CALPERS retirement plan, too?


5 posted on 09/02/2011 6:09:20 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: artichokegrower

Think of the paperwork involved in this for the families


6 posted on 09/02/2011 6:09:28 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: artichokegrower
What a great idea! This is what we need: More in-your-face gov’t intervention when you have a 9.2 percent unemployment rate...and this for a tiny, tiny market segment. It's got to cost more to police this than it could ever hope to collect. More gov’t stupidity.
7 posted on 09/02/2011 6:15:54 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: traditional1

First thing we did after the election in Michigan was to kill that union.


8 posted on 09/02/2011 6:16:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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Democratic lawmakers in Sacramento are fast-tracking a bill that would require workers’ compensation benefits, meal breaks and paid vacation time for all “domestic employees”, including nannies, housekeepers and even babysitters.

Fire them. If people were to sit down and add up the total cost associated with mommy working, they'd easily find out mommy is COSTING the family when she works. They'd actually SAVE money if she quit and worked only one job - the job of being a mother. Quiting would be a win-win for both her and her family.
In this economy, there's no reason why people can't mow their own lawns or hire high school kids to do it. Those kids would love a little extra cash right now.

(Starve the Beast. We can survive without big governments money, but big government can't survive without ours! Join Operation Thrift.)

9 posted on 09/02/2011 6:16:49 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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I guess the state of Nannyfornia wants to regulate business normally conducted by a handshake.

This only encourages black markets, under-the-table dealings and a general disregard for government.


10 posted on 09/02/2011 6:17:23 AM PDT by kidd (S&P gives Obama an 'AA+'...Obama's only published grade)
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To: artichokegrower

Will this apply to the kid if the kid watches himself?


11 posted on 09/02/2011 6:19:18 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: traditional1
Which Union are the babysitters joining?

I think the Teamsters Union. I read a thread once where a sitter got a letter in the mail saying she had to pay them union dues.
She freaked. She never agreed to join a union, but somehow it was forced on her.

12 posted on 09/02/2011 6:20:15 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: artichokegrower
Lex Luthor: Bye bye California. Hello new west coast. My west coast...... Costa Del Lex. Luthorville. Marina del Lex. Otisburg - “Otisburg”?


13 posted on 09/02/2011 6:20:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Ingtar

and with the major gerrymandering, we got redisricted when Mr Rogan came out against Mr. Clinton, the state conservatives have been silenced.


14 posted on 09/02/2011 6:26:24 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Ingtar

From the bill:

(e) The vast majority of domestic workers are women of color and
immigrants and are particularly vulnerable to unlawful employment
practices and abuses.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0851-0900/ab_889_bill_20110712_amended_sen_v94.html


15 posted on 09/02/2011 6:28:08 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: econjack
It's got to cost more to police this than it could ever hope to collect.

Which is their goal. Create a new dept. Hire a bunch of lackeys. Lather, rinse, repeat.

16 posted on 09/02/2011 6:28:49 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: GeronL

I think this is great

Time for the Hollywoodistas to pay Conchita Rosita Evita Margarita a fair union-scale wage with coffee breaks and a pension


17 posted on 09/02/2011 6:30:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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I've never understood how people who fight for high union wages and benefits for themselves can be so cheap when it comes to paying the people who do work for them such as handymen, babysitters, cleaning ladies, house painters, lawn care guys...They're as "miserly" as their "corporate fat-cat" employers. They're usually the most vociferous when it comes to their outrage at what they're being charged when they get a quote, too.

My sister-in-law one time got a quote on having her kitchen wallpapered. It's a job that's charged by the roll. Well, this cheapskate put up all the easy, straight drop sections herself. When the guy came, she expected him to put up all the hard cuts, corners, windows, doorways at the same rate he originally quoted. She actually measured the places she skipped over, which was stupid because she could have easily messed up the job. She wasn't the least bit embarrassed or kind of regretful. She was proud of herself.

The liberal mindset is selfish.

18 posted on 09/02/2011 6:31:03 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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In addition, the bill would require parents to provide substitute caregivers every two hours to cover rest and meal breaks,

In other words, parents have to hire another employee to cover the first employee while he/she is on break. That means the costs will skyrocket.
If you and your spouse work, it would be wise to go over your budget. It would be cheaper if only one of you worked. (Remember to pay attention to your "new" net income when you do it, because this would also put you in a lower tax bracket)

19 posted on 09/02/2011 6:33:25 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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First they went after lemonade stands, now they are going after babysitters. Hey America! How’s that nanny state working out for ya?!


20 posted on 09/02/2011 6:35:35 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Coming November 2012 - Bedtime For Obozo.)
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