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To: rjeffries

“So you support punishing people whose parents committ crimes? Yes. That’s American isn’t it?”

A retreat to “it’s all for the children” is, IMHO, the last refuge of scoundrels. The children are pawns of their parents (chain migration), the left, and cheap-labor R’s. It has nothing to do with compassion and everything to do with amnesty (either overtly or, by chain migration, covertly) for all illegals.

If you can’t make your argument without resorting to “it’s for the children,” you should consider not making it.


55 posted on 09/02/2011 12:04:38 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker
If you can’t make your argument without resorting to “it’s for the children,” you should consider not making it.

I understand your point, but the impact of that question cannot be dismissed. Squishy independents hear that argument and are instantly swayed by it.

Any discussion that focuses on children is guaranteed to be won by whichever side is making the most emotional appeal.

Focus on punishing employers of illegals, focus on making it hard for illegals to work, basically encourage illegals to deport themselves the same way they came in. Americans, even squishy ones, generally don't like illegal immigration and they understand the need to have the right documentation.

Once the focus shifts to children, their brains turn off and their hearts hit the override. At that point, the argument is lost. There's just no will in America to get tough on the kids of criminals.

60 posted on 09/02/2011 12:14:27 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: ModelBreaker

Umm.. my argument has nothing to do with the children. What the hell are you talking about?

I’m talking about human to human. Is the person innocent or guilty of a crime? If guilty, punish them.

Should I be punished for my ancestors being slave owners? This is the left-wing affirmative action position that you and others are taking.


64 posted on 09/02/2011 12:51:54 AM PDT by rjeffries
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