Posted on 09/01/2011 6:40:44 PM PDT by NoLibZone
Edited on 09/01/2011 6:44:53 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Most American voters think the U.S. political system is broken, and more than half think major political uprisings like those recently seen elsewhere around the world are likely to happen in the United States in the next decade.
These are some of the findings from a Fox News poll released Thursday.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
I may riot myself if Obummer wins again.
I can only assume that you are trying your best to be sarcastic......Fox is the ONLY network on T.V. to tell it as it is....when they have Bechel and Juan Williams as contributors, you KNOW that they are not biased....
10 years?? I would think 18 months would be more like it.
I say let them try. The more the merrier. Burn baby burn. The leftwing thugs in Chicago 1968 had a fine time but cost Hubert Humphrey the election and ushered in the Nixon years.
The elderly and young and infirm...
I expect that the uprising will come from the rich. Having become disgusted with the redistribution of THEIR money, they will organize a well armed and well paid militia to "protect their interests"...
Anyone out there on FR NOT ready yet?
I already have, silently, by not spending, not hiring, and not expanding my business until Obama is gone.
I can’t understand why? Except, perhaps, that the progressives are calling for Obama to lead a coalition of labor, communists, blacks, academics and welfare recipients “into the streets” to take control of the country. (see Richard Wolffe) Other than that and the flash mobs and union protesters and Islamists demanding Sharia, I can’t imagine any discord.
Mebbe so.
But there's one thing I can't figure out...
How do race riots help Zero get re-elected?
Ummm - anyone see a deliberte grouping there?
Provided the elections are honest unrest can be avoided.
The elderly and young will suffer the most.
The number of deaths will be much higher because,
among other things, the percentage of the population
that is medically unstable, or economically nonviable,
but being propped by Governmental programs,
is a vast number now.
Social Security Disability, Medicaid, Medicare,
Those in Nursing Homes, Special Needs Children and Adults,
Would have either Survived through local efforts before,
or would have failed and died.
Those unable (or unwilling) to work
would have simply starved
It will be very ugly.
The other 49% are the pretentious, bipartisan political snobs, who are robbing the rest of us through their outrageous fees, anti-competition regulations, false accusations, violations of our property rights and of our families through their pathological social fads. They’re spewing their cowardly fear of “uprisings,” because they’re as guilty as the very concept of Roman hell.
Quit worrying so much about the “technocracy” that will be administered by those willing to do honest work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgyMvmvotqk
A few flash mobs in swing areas will keep some whites from the polls.
I don’t think so.
The rich have options. Many of them have moved their factories overseas, for instance.
That would have to be deliberately introduced into the population. The only smallpox around these days sits in vials in secure labs.
What makes you think he'll BE a 'lame duck president"?
He/they will know before elections if they're about to lose - riots will give the excuse for Martial Law = no elections.
Well that ain't gonna happen.
The point is that civil unrest does not necessarily provoke rational reactions in the political world because the academic and the media world will not read it with common sense. There is no telling what the implications of such civil unrest to our constitutional republic might be.
Here is what Wikipedia says about the Kerner commission report(the portions of relevant interest I have emphasized in bold):
"Background
Lyndon B. Johnson appointed the commission on July 28, 1967, while rioting was still underway in Detroit, Michigan. Mounting civil unrest since 1965 had stemmed riots in the black neighborhoods of major U.S. cities, including Los Angeles (Watts Riot of 1965), Chicago (Division Street Riots of 1966), and Newark (1967 Newark riots).[1] In his remarks upon signing the order establishing the Commission, Johnson asked for answers to three basic questions about the riots: "What happened? Why did it happen? What can be done to prevent it from happening again and again?"[2]
[edit] Members of the Commission
Otto Kerner, Governor of Illinois and chair
John Lindsay, Mayor of New York and vice chairman
Edward Brooke, Senator (R-MA)
Fred R. Harris, Senator (D-OK)
James Corman, Congressman (D-CA)
William McCulloch, Congressman (R-OH)
Charles Thornton, Founder of defense contractor Litton Industries
Roy Wilkins, Executive Director of the NAACP
I.W. Abel, President of US Steelworkers of American Herbert Jenkins, Police chief, Atlanta, Georgia
Katherine Graham Peden, Commissioner of Commerce,
Kentucky
[edit] Findings of the Report
Appointed by Johnson to serve as the commission's executive director, David Ginsburg played a pivotal role in writing the commission's findings.[3] The Commission's final report, the Report of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders or Kerner Report was released on February 29, 1968 after seven months of investigation. The report became an instant best-seller, and over two million Americans bought copies of the 426-page document. Its finding was that the riots resulted from black frustration at lack of economic opportunity. Reverend Martin Luther King Jr., pronounced the report a "physician's warning of approaching death, with a prescription for life."[4]
The report berated federal and state governments for failed housing, education and social-service policies. The report also aimed some of its sharpest criticism at the mainstream media. "The press has too long basked in a white world looking out of it, if at all, with white men's eyes and white perspective."
The report's most infamous passage warned, "Our nation is moving toward two societies, one black, one white-separate and unequal."
Its results suggested that one main cause of urban violence was white racism and suggested that white America bore much of the responsibility for black rioting and rebellion. It called to create new jobs, construct new housing, and put a stop to de-facto segregation in order to wipe out the destructive ghetto environment. In order to do so, the report recommended for government programs to provide needed services, to hire more diverse and sensitive police forces and, most notably, to invest billions in housing programs aimed at breaking up residential segregation.
The Commission's suggestions included, but were not limited to:
"Unless there are sharp changes in the factors influencing Negro settlement patterns within metropolitan areas, there is little doubt that the trend toward Negro majorities will continue."
"Providing employment for the swelling Negro ghetto population will require ...opening suburban residential areas to Negroes and encouraging them to move closer to industrial centers..."
"...cities will have Negro majorities by 1985 and the suburbs ringing them will remain largely all white unless there are major changes in Negro fertility rates, in migration settlement patterns or public policy."
"...we believe that the emphasis of the program should be changed from traditional publicly built slum based high rise projects to smaller units on scattered sites."
One often overlooked recommendation of the report was for an expansion of police surveillance in order to better deal with further unrest. The Commission recommended that:
"police departments...develop means to obtain adequate intelligence for planning purposes...As intelligence unit staffed with full-time personnel should be established to gather, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information on potential as well as actual civil disorders...It should use undercover police personnel and informants."
The Law Enforcement Assistance Administration released federal funding for local police forces in response.[5] [edit] Aftermath
President Lyndon B. Johnson, who had already pushed through the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, ignored the report and rejected the Kerner Commission's recommendations. In April 1968, one month after the release of the Kerner report, rioting broke out in more than 100 cities following the assassination of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr. [6]
To mark the thirtieth anniversary of the Kerner Report, the Eisenhower Foundation sponsored two complementary reports, The Millennium Breach and Locked in the Poorhouse. The Millennium Breach, co-authored by former Senator and Commission member Fred R. Harris, found the racial divide had grown in the subsequent years with inner-city unemployment at crisis levels.[7]
The Millennium Breach found that most of the decade that followed the Kerner Report, America made progress on the principal fronts the report dealt with: race, poverty, and inner cities. Then progress stopped and in some ways reversed by a series of economic shocks and trends and the governments action and inaction.
Harris reported, Today, thirty years after the Kerner Report, there is more poverty in America, it is deeper, blacker and browner than before, and it is more concentrated in the cities, which have become Americas poorhouses.[8]
[edit] Criticism
Conservative critics of the Kerner Report argue that the basis and findings of the report are deeply flawed. They contend that the report exonerates rioters for their behavior and places the blame for their actions on the larger society. The notion that racism created pathological social conditions that lead to the eruption of racial riots, as the Kerner Commission argued, was not supported by the findings of many uncited sociologists. The major riots took place in cities where blacks experienced the least racism; although Los Angeles, Newark, and Detroit were certainly not without racism, it did not compare with that in the deep South. This last point, however, that it is in the South where "true racism" existed (in past tense) is a myth itself, created to absolve the North of its subtle and continuing racism.
Abraham H. Miller, who won a Pi Sigma Alpha Award from the Western Political Science Association for his statistical refutation of some of the Commission's data analysis, stated, "There is considerable reason for rejecting the sociological and popular cliché that absolute or relative deprivation and the ensuing frustration or despair is the root cause of rebellion."[9]
At a 1998 lecture commemorating the 30th anniversary of the report, Stephan Thernstrom, a history professor at Harvard University, stated,
"Because the commission took for granted that the riots were the fault of white racism, it would have been awkward to have had to confront the question of why liberal Detroit blew up while Birmingham and other Southern cities where conditions for blacks were infinitely worse did not. Likewise, if the problem was white racism, why didnt the riots occur in the 1930s, when prevailing white racial attitudes were far more barbaric than they were in the 1960s?[10]
Critics of the report also attribute the cause of the riots to the size of the black community where the eruption occurred and the failure of the police force to respond swiftly and adequately.[11]"
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