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Swedes' perceived rudeness 'isn't racially motivated'
http://www.thelocal.se/35830/20110829/ ^ | 08/29/2011 | Ruben Brunsveld

Posted on 09/01/2011 1:11:46 PM PDT by WesternCulture

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To: SaraJohnson
did it occur to you that Din might be a Paki racist who is lying about or denigrating Whites and their culture (dhimmies) in Sweden?

Of course it did, but if you visit Sweden as a white person you'll still find them rude. They are "colder" than we in the States expect people to be and they are cooler to strangers than even New Yorkers

However, the young mother WAS rude -- extremely. That was basic common courtesy to thank, even a "tack" (thank you in Swedish) is common courtesy.

How is he "denigrating Whites"? His comments at the end talk about how how in Newcastle In Newcastle, a visitor is sure to receive a warm welcome and a kind word from any member of the community, black, white or brown, Chinese or South Asian -- hardly "denigrating Whites" -- he's talking about Swedes in particular

Why, I've known English friends -- white English friends have the same "experiences" on the continent. And they too slam the "foreigners" -- most of the time the problem was, as also in this case, that they didn't bother to learn a few words (Please, thank you, hello) in the native language.

Why the first time I visited Paris I thought the Frenchies would be insufferably rude -- and they WERE to my friend who didn't speak French, but I did speak basic French and the locals were happy that I at least tried. Even in Greek with just "Efxaristo" you get the smiles out of the locals

In every black or brown person, a white racist sees a sub-human criminal. In every white person, a brown or black racist sees a sub-human racist. --> true, but you have no way of knowing that is the case here and if you read what Din ACTUALLY wrote, it doesn't seem that way at all

Who died and gave Din the position of racial superiority to judge and condemn the Swedes? -- where exactly does he give "racial superiority"? He talks about his experiences among a nationality -- as I said, speak to white English yobs and they'll tell you the same

? He has plenty of hate against women and people of other races in his own heart and in his own tribe --> how exactly do YOU know that? How could you know what's in his heart? By the looks of his family, his "tribe" seems Geordie (ooh, I just thought of one thing -- if he spoke Geordie, no wonder the Swedes didn't understand him -- NO ONE can unnerstan Geordie)

41 posted on 09/02/2011 7:11:39 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
before he starts taking on a stance of racial and cultural superiority over whiteys in Sweden or anywhere else in Europe. -- where exactly did he do that? What kind of weird conclusions are you making out of thin air? He's comparing people's "friendliness" in NewCastle to Stockholm, the UK to Sweden, not racial or cultural superiority.
42 posted on 09/02/2011 7:13:09 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: Cronos

Let’s put it this way. If you put the shoe on the other foot and as a white guy from Britian traveled to Pakistan and then came back and wrote a piece condemning the brown people and their culture as disgusting to you from a superior point of view, you would be a racist. I don’t accept your shame based double standards of multicultural racism. It is not in a Paki’s place to racially condemn Swedes.

There are plenty of problems in everyone’s heart, race and culture for them to straighten out if they want to be a busy body. Pluck the pole out of your eye before you pick at the splinter in the other guy’s eye. He who is without sin, cast the first stone. That is the golden rule for peace and mutual respect. It is the opposite of multiculturalism.

Multiculturalism keeps all the tribes plucking out one another’s eyes and blinded while global elitists rule and abuse everyone as they please. So I reject it and go by the West’s cultural “mind your own business” rule of thumb. When you get yourself and your tribe all perfect love, then come and teach us how to do it. Before then, stick it.


43 posted on 09/02/2011 9:00:15 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Verginius Rufus
Good old what's his name, Charles Darwin, married a first cousin. They were descendants of the Scandinavian nobility in the Orkney's.

He had a number of gastrointestinal problems all his life (except when at sea) and, most tellingly, his children suffered from "indeterminent infertility" which is a situation where half the offspring of someone carrying the allele for that condition end up infertile.

I haven't traced his ancestry all that far ('cause you can't), but that's so typical of the Sa'ami, and the Scanderhoovians with substantial Sa'ami ancestry it isn't funny.

44 posted on 09/02/2011 9:12:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cronos
Waiting in line, a young blonde mother dropped one of her baby’s possessions. I asked my wife to retrieve it, by now assuming the mother wouldn’t take kindly to me. She didn’t say thank you.

Could be she was a feminist and was offended and in her eyes she may have thought the man arrogantly ordered his wife pick it up rather than doing so himself.

Maybe she was mute.Not likely but possible.

It could be sheas havng a very bad, worrisome day and forgot.

It could also be that she did repond, just not verbally. In the midwest a lot of people will just give a nod to say thanks or to acknowledge you, perhaps a holdover from older days when people wore hats- they would tip their hat. We could go a full day working in a group to shingle a roof or pick a field or hunting and not utter a single word, just using hand or facial gestures, because we'd pay attention to see if someone was out of shingles or cartons and needed resupplied, or needed help getting over a fence and would just get it for them or take their gun before they said a word. If you are accustomed to it you see it, second nature, but someone who isn't accustomed to nonverbal communication could easily miss the subtle gestures.

45 posted on 09/02/2011 9:48:37 AM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa
1. the feminist bit maybe -- but it's still incredibly rude not to thank another person to do it -- she could have thanked the wife and given the husband a nasty stare

2. Maybe she was a mute? Maybe -- but even mutes would nod or give a sign-language "thank you"

3. Having a bad day -- still not an excuse for a simple thank you. In Swedish it's one word "thak"

It could be a lot of things, but I see this as a British guy who goes to a foreign country without bothering to pick up a few words of the local language and thinking the foreigners will speak English and not bothering to find out a bit about the culture.

I've known white Brits to do the same thing and be equally surprised

This guy wonders why and wonders if his skin color had something to do with it - a reasonable , if wrong, guess.

46 posted on 09/03/2011 12:38:43 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
as a white guy from Britian traveled to Pakistan and then came back and wrote a piece condemning the brown people and their culture as disgusting to you from a superior point of view, you would be a racist.

Firstly -- he never "condemned" the Swedes, leave along condemning "white people" -- on the contrary if you read what he actually said, he admired Swedish achievements and he talks highly of the Geordies (whites from Newcastle) -- read what he actually said before commenting.

Secondly, I've READ quite a few articles of Brits who travel to Pakistan and then condemn the culture or actions of people there -- it's not racist, it's a Brit either not reading up about the culture there, or knowing and pointing out the bad things

And yes, white BRits would also call the Swedes rude.

47 posted on 09/03/2011 12:42:41 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
I don’t accept your shame based double standards of multicultural racism. -- now you are trying to read my mind? First you say that you can read what is in Mr. Din's mind and now you think you can read what is in everyone else's mind?

Where are these supposedly "double standards of multicultural racism" in either Mr. Din's article or in my posts?

Stop making up stories -- you can't read minds.

48 posted on 09/03/2011 12:43:45 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
It is not in a Paki’s place to racially condemn Swedes

Firstly -- where exactly in Mr. Din's article did he "racially condemn" Swedes?

Secondly, "it's not in his place", interesting -- folks should stay in his place, eh?

49 posted on 09/03/2011 12:45:07 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
There are plenty of problems in everyone’s heart, race and culture for them to straighten out if they want to be a busy body

Yet YOU are the one saying He has plenty of hate against women and people of other races in his own heart and in his own tribe --> how exactly do YOU know what is in his heart?

50 posted on 09/03/2011 12:46:19 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
He who is without sin, cast the first stone.

Yet YOU are the one saying He has plenty of hate against women and people of other races in his own heart and in his own tribe --> so, how do you cast the first stone then?

51 posted on 09/03/2011 12:47:03 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
When you get yourself and your tribe all perfect love, then come and teach us how to do it.

And he pointed out how "his tribe", the folks in Newcastle, are, according to him, all perfect love --> he pointed out that in his opinion, whites, browns etc. in Newcastle are friendly.

52 posted on 09/03/2011 12:48:03 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: SaraJohnson
Multiculturalism keeps all the tribes plucking out one another’s eyes and blinded while global elitists rule and abuse everyone as they please. --> interesting, so this guy -- if you look at the picture

The family looks like a Geordie one -- do you even know anything about Geordie culture to comment on them? Have you been there?

Mr. din's comments were like any ill-read tourist but you've taken this into some strange murky side-universe of white racial guilt, when it had nothing to do with that and more about different perceptions by folks from different countries.

A Geordie would also find a Cockney difficult to get along with.

53 posted on 09/03/2011 12:52:24 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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