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To: Oceander
So you'd rather be told that what ain't so, is so?

I'm not saying I like it, but I've accepted the fact that intelligent design is our side's version of man-made global warming, except without the taxation and authoritarian government control.

I wish we weren't the party of creationism, but what to do. I'm open to your ideas.

21 posted on 08/31/2011 8:46:25 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
I wish we weren't the party of creationism, but what to do. I'm open to your ideas.

A good point. Perhaps it might make more sense if one tries to pull it back into proper perspective with God's creation of the Universe. The Bible tells us why God created the Universe, but is less detail-oriented and more allegorical when it comes to the how. Evolution, in some form, is fact, so it must be the case that God created the world, and the Universe, so that it would evolve. In other words, evolution is part of the "How" in the question of how God created the Universe. He is still creating it.

To the objections that this presupposes some sort of flaw in God's creation, which is simply not possible as God is Perfect, the simple rejoinder is that evolution and the involvement of random chance in the process is part and parcel for God's desire that Man have free will. In other words, if God had simply pre-formed every jot and tittle of the human form in one go, right down to the last molecule, in final finished form, then the result would have been an automaton, a derivative robot with no genuine spark of self, of free will. Without free will there can be no real meaning to the worship of God because such worship would be the product of mere manufacture, and not a genuine choice of Good over Evil.

It is my speculation that evolution is just one of the many subtle ways in which the Lord works, and through which He created - and is still creating - the Universe and the world.
31 posted on 08/31/2011 8:58:48 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: GunRunner; Oceander

You wrote: “...I’ve accepted the fact that intelligent design is our side’s version of man-made global warming, except without the taxation and authoritarian government control. I wish we weren’t the party of creationism, but what to do...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2764897/posts?page=487#487


33 posted on 08/31/2011 9:02:20 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: GunRunner
I'm not saying I like it, but I've accepted the fact that intelligent design is our side's version of man-made global warming, except without the taxation and authoritarian government control. I wish we weren't the party of creationism, but what to do. I'm open to your ideas.

What part of this nation's standard do you wish to erase.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

Creation is NOT an 'ism', never has been and never will be. YOU can return to the party of 'ism'.

40 posted on 08/31/2011 9:07:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: GunRunner

I don’t even know why it has to be an issue.

How does this debate affect daily american life, other than to engage people in a futile endless debate?

I don’t CARE if our president is an evolutionist or a creationist.

I want him to repeal Obamacare!


70 posted on 08/31/2011 9:53:21 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: GunRunner

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Believe a lie and be damned, your choice.


78 posted on 08/31/2011 10:00:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if she doesn't run.--My vote is already bought, so move on)
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