RINO Mitt Perry: That man, Rudy Giuliani, would make a great president of the United States but I would not want him to be vice president of the United States.
Posted on 08/31/2011 1:19:03 PM PDT by CA Conservative
When Rick Perry signed the Susan B. Anthony List’s pro-life pledge last week, it raised a few eyebrows among those who recall his endorsement of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in 2008, a noted pro-choice Republican. Perry insisted that a President Giuliani would appoint conservative jurists to the bench and that his personal views would not be relevant. Four years later, Perry now says that, if nominated, he will make sure his running mate is not just pro-life, but an advocate for the cause:
Surging Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry, the Texas governor, has pledged to influential Christian leaders that he will push pro-life policies, oppose gay marriage, and pick cabinet officials and a vice president who share his values, a promise that would rule out a Perry-Rudy Giuliani ticket.
"At a weekend Texas gathering of about 200 conservative leaders, some from Washington, Perry and his wife Anita portrayed themselves as authentic and life-long conservatives who could bring the most pro-life administration ever to Washington."
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Unfortunately, that isn't currently true. Due to Roe v. Wade, abortion is in the federal orbit. If that is ever overturned, and barring a Human Life Amendment, the matter of abortion would be returned to the states. Until then, a president does have influence over the issue of abortion, particularly with federal policy (Hyde Amendment, Mexico City policy) and appointing strict constructionist judges.
Another bald-faced (and bold font) lie from Red South - but what else can we expect?
According to USGovernmentSpending.com, state debt in Texas in the year 2000 was $19.2 billion. At the end of 2010, it was $27.3 billion. Even if you don't account for inflation, that is only a 42% increase. If you account for inflation, it is a 16% increase, or 1.6% per year.
RINO Mitt Perry: That man, Rudy Giuliani, would make a great president of the United States but I would not want him to be vice president of the United States.
Your source includes debt for other agencies including the state universities, etc. Mine is just state debt - the only piece of the pie Perry had any control over.
I understand the contradiction that you are attempting to set up, it truly is an intereting tack to take. I applaud your strategy.
I would have to say that any unwanted threat to or ending of someones’ pregnancy should be prosecuted.
(very interested in your response)
Perry said he believes abortion should be legal in cases involving rape or incest. That’s not a pro-life position. Abortion is abortion and it is wrong. The child is innocent of the act and deserves life. RINO Mitt Perry doesn’t think so and he believes its life should be terminated.
You can tell by the way they dance, stayin' alive.
My wife says no exceptions whatsoever. I have to agree with her. I can understand if it becomes medically necessary to perform a procedure and the end result is death in mother or child. With good sound research hopefully we could put to bed this issue. Like I said before this is just used as an excuse.
I know that it probably comes as a big surprise to you, but people....”human beings” have sometimes been known to see the error of their ways and change. Now, someone as clearly perfect as yourself, never having once changed your thought process or opinion on anything, I understand that might be quite the foreign concept to you, so I am very glad I could help.
Perry said he believes abortion should be legal in cases involving rape or incest. That’s not a pro-life position.
In your opinion. That and $5.00 will by you a cup of coffee.
Depends on the emergency.
Ectopic pregnancy, yes, because at present you cannot save both. Best to save the life of the woman when there is no other option.
Beyond that, there are many ‘medical emergencies’, but there’s two patients involved. We don’t kill one patient when we can save both.
“I wouldn’t force her to carry that child. it would be the same as being raped again and again, psychologically.”
There’s a very real difference. Many women who have been raped and carried to term believe that their child is the best thing to come out of the rape. Rather then being raped again, it’s seen as no longer being a victim, but making a conscience choice to turn a lemon into lemonade. There are some very powerful testimonies.
Then you have to look back at the choice that you propose. I know women who have faced this choice, and it scars them. Abortion is something they are culpable for, rather then being a victim, they are taking the step to harm another innocent.
I do not believe that this is the best choice, long run for these women, to see, feel and remember the death of their child, by their own choice. Not for their psychological health long term.
Scott Peterson was convicted of double murder. I think there have been others as well. Conner’s law makes the fetus a human being no matter at what stage of development. I believe there is now a case or two attempting to convict on double murder. The case law has been set. You cannot have abortion legal and convict of double murder. Congress and Pres Bush along with the conviction of Peterson have declared that the intentional caused death of a fetus is murder.
“Many women who have been raped and carried to term believe that their child is the best thing to come out of the rape. Rather then being raped again, it’s seen as no longer being a victim, but making a conscience choice to turn a lemon into lemonade. There are some very powerful testimonies.”
But they HAD the choice.
“Congress and Pres Bush along with the conviction of Peterson have declared that the intentional caused death of a fetus is murder.”
Far be it for me to call you a liar but;
Congress and Pres Bush along with the conviction of Peterson have declared that the intentional and UNWANTED caused death of a fetus is murder.
Just to inject a little honesty into the debate.
Change can be good. But RINO Mitt Perry’s ‘change’ as you put it seems to have come only now that he is running for president of the United States. That’s disingenuous and best — and downright deceitful at worst. With what I know of RINO Mitt Perry, I am compelled to believe that latter.
NO true Christian could take that position. Have you done any research on Perry’s association with the Muslims? That’s the one that sealed it for me. It’s no to Perry. We have one Muslim apologist in the White House we don’t need another.
Look at the wording in the bill. No differentiating age of the “child” only that the “child” is in womb which is only a location. That means that it is a child from conception rather then just a “fetus”.
The bill defines an "unborn child" as a child in utero, which means "a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."
That gives legal status to that child as an individual. Prove to me that the “child” wanted to be killed.
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