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To: Lakeshark; indylindy; Sudetenland
I've been trying to get a Perry supporter to help me understand how you support him considering his softness on illegal immigration and his continual pandering to the La Raza/open borders crowd. He has a pretty poor record on this subject, one that is extremely important to our ongoing fight against collapse (and liberalism for that matter).
Can you explain this one to me?

I am not exactly a "Perry supporter," (in fact a Perry supported called me nasty names yesterday) but Perry and Palin have a similar plan for immigration (guest worker program).

Watch the video of Palin in 2010 at about 3:15. LINK

She will register illegals and allow them to work to work as long as they "follow the steps."

Perry signed the Texas Dream Act, so that is a point against him. Palin was for a "path to citizenship" in 2008, but seems to have backed away from that. But P and P look pretty similar to me.

348 posted on 08/30/2011 1:20:22 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Lakeshark

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,592942,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, now, I know that your past as governor of Alaska didn’t — was not the same time that Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona has gotten into office, but I assume that sort of governor to governor...
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: What’s your thought on the heat that she’s taking over this statute?
PALIN: I’m proud of Jan Brewer for standing up for the constituents in her state, sending a message to Washington, sending a message to President Obama saying, Hey, you need to do your job, sir. And if you’re not going to do it, OK, then we are compelled to do the job for you until you get it right.
President Obama has been suspiciously silent on this issue, hasn’t he? We don’t even know where he stands on immigration reform or securing our borders. He doesn’t talk about it. He gets to punt on that one. And that’s unfortunate because this is a big issue. It’s all about national security. It’s about our sister border states that are inundated with violence and with crime because people illegally crossing the border, engaging in illegal activities for too long now. And some of these border states are saying, Now we’ve had enough. I admire Jan Brewer for taking a stand.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why do you think — I mean, for 20-some years, maybe even longer, even going back to President Reagan — everyone has always said, We’re going to secure the borders.
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Nobody has done anything. I mean, or almost nothing.
PALIN: Because they’ve made it political and they haven’t understood that unsecure borders isn’t fair to anybody. It’s not fair to American citizens who ware here legally, paying taxes, following the rules, doing all the things that an American citizen is expected to do. It’s not fair to them. But it’s not fair to the illegal aliens, either, here. They want to come pursue an American dream. Some of them do want to be here to work. But they’re forever going to have to hide because, you know, government’s going to crack down on them when (INAUDIBLE)
So they need to follow that path of legal citizenship, obviously. But these politicians, presidents in the past who have not secured the border, they’ve made it a political issue. They haven’t wanted to tick off a potential base of Hispanic voters, so they haven’t made the tough decisions. And that’s no way to solve the problem. That’s no way to solve any challenge in America, by ducking and hiding and creating division and making these partisan issues out of it.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, we have still more with Governor Sarah Palin. Governor Palin is blunt about what she would do about illegal immigration. She’s going to tell you.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VAN SUSTEREN: Continuing with former governor Sarah Palin on illegal immigration.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Both parties have made promises. I mean, we pull up sound bites where, you know, both sides, you know, Democrat, Republicans, say, you know, Secure the border, secure the border. And then once in office, we certainly don’t see a whole lot of action. Had the election gone another way, or even if you were president, what would you do about immigration?
PALIN: The very first thing is literally secure the border!
VAN SUSTEREN: How?
PALIN: People mock the idea of a fence. What’s wrong with building a fence? Yes, let’s physically secure the border. Let’s ramp up border control. Let’s provide the tools for those who are putting their lives on the line in order to stop illegal immigration of these aliens. Those are a couple of things.
And then you don’t start talking about amnesty, either, kind of as this last-minute, Oh, anybody who’s here in the country right now, we’re going to provide you amnesty, and even though you’ve broken the law and we are a nation of laws, you’ve broken that, we’ll still give you — because then there’s going to be a huge influx of those wanting kind of at the last minute to come over the border because they know that they will forever then receive that amnesty.
So you don’t start talking about that, but the very first thing you do is physically, literally secure those borders. It baffles me and most Americans why for all these years presidents, administrations have spoken about it but never done it.


349 posted on 08/30/2011 1:44:35 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
That's such a canard you posted. The O'Reilly interview where she is constantly interrupted, the entire gist of what she clearly said is illegal immigration had to stop and she would make certain with everything possible that the border would be secure, no ifs ands or buts. What you are claiming is not what she said, but what a few of you want her to mean (sort of pathetic projections it seems).

Everything she's said, in every interview since her two months as VP candidate has been consistent, that illegal immigration is a huge issue and we need to stop it from happening at all costs.

She was one of the first to step up to the plate and applaud the AZ law when it first passed, she was a huge promoter of Brewer over this one issue, and you have the nerve to crap in the waters, pretending she said something you somehow believe she really meant.

Go ahead, show us the proof of her "guest worker program". Show us one tweet, one facebook post, one editorial, one place where she fleshes this "guest worker program" out for us.

It ain't there, but it sure shows up somewhere in your own mind.

Perry on the other hand, has consistently pandered to the La Raza/open borders crowd. That's one heck of a difference.

350 posted on 08/30/2011 2:06:21 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Go ahead, try post 349 for example. I'm sure you can find something in that transcript that shows us her guest worker program.....

*rolls eyes*

351 posted on 08/30/2011 2:11:21 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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