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To: EternalVigilance

>It’s whether you kill yourself or not.

Then, by your own definition, Jesus committed suicide no ifs, ands, or buts... that He had the ultimate authority to do so and others might not is irrelevant.
Further, someone who jumps out at a cop screaming “I’ve got a gun” only to be killed by the officer is not committing suicide.

>I know the latter has become strange and foreign to far too many in this generation, but this conversation really takes the cake.

Why is that? I have now caused you to refute your own earlier claims [those regarding Jesus as not committing suicide].


190 posted on 09/15/2011 11:21:31 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Look, if you can’t tell the moral difference between a fireman going up the stairs on 9-11 and a guy blowing his own brains out, I seriously doubt that anything else I can say to you will have any effect whatsoever.


191 posted on 09/15/2011 12:44:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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To: OneWingedShark
Then, by your own definition, Jesus committed suicide no ifs, ands, or buts...

Simply untrue.

192 posted on 09/15/2011 12:45:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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To: OneWingedShark

As a man, Jesus was put to death by the Romans. Nailed to a cross. He didn’t nail Himself there.

As God, He has total authority, complete sovereignty, over life and death for every human being. Always has, always will.

You’re not God.

And if He decides your life on this earth is over today, it’s over.

And that doesn’t make Him a murderer, either.

It makes Him exactly what He is: the Sovereign.

A clear connection you would find in the etymology of the word “unalienable,” if you would dig it out, by the way.


193 posted on 09/15/2011 12:53:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We still hold these truths to be self-evident...)
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