[sten]

if you paid into social security, you are due money out. that’s how it’s supposed to work and not a government pension.

government pensions are for government employees .. in addition to their social security payouts

there is no reason, besides for police, fire, and military, for people to receive a pension. were they not paid along the way? if not.. we can talk. but the vast majority, if not all, were paid along the way. many being pair 6-figure salaries into retirement.

[Niteflyr]

there is no reason, besides for police, fire, and military, for people to receive a pension. were they not paid along the way?

And police, fire and military are donating time for free?