[Niteflyr]

there is no reason, besides for police, fire, and military, for people to receive a pension. were they not paid along the way?

And police, fire and military are donating time for free?

[icanhasbailout]

Volunteer firemen do. Should be more of them and less of the professionals who seem to retire terribly early, claim disability at a torrential pace, and receive amazing benefits from the engagement... while doing a lot of sleeping around the firehouse.