Posted on 08/26/2011 10:37:32 PM PDT by newzjunkey
WASHINGTON The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) released the following statement today announcing that Gov. Rick Perry has signed their marriage pledge:
"Kudos to Gov. Rick Perry for making it clear: he's a marriage champion!," said Brian Brown, president of NOM. "The purpose of NOM's Marriage Pledge is to move from vague values statements to concrete actions to protect marriage. Gov. Perry joins Michele Bachmann, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum as a signer of NOM Marriage Pledge. By doing so, Perry makes crystal clear that, contrary to the conventional wisdom, gay marriage is going to be a bigger issue in 2012 than it was in 2008, because the difference between the GOP nominee and Pres. Obama is going to be large and clear. We look forward to demonstrating that being for marriage is a winning position for a presidential candidate."
I, (name), pledge to the American people that if elected President, I will:
One, support sending a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman to the states for ratification.
Two, nominate to the U.S. Supreme Court and federal bench judges who are committed to restrain and to applying the original meaning of the Constitution, appoint an attorney general similarly committed, and thus reject the idea our Founding Fathers inserted a right to gay marriage into our Constitution.
Three, defend the federal Defense of Marriage Act vigorously in court.
Four, establish a presidential commission on religious liberty to investigate and document reports of Americans who have been harassed or threatened for exercising key civil rights to organize, to speak, to donate or to vote for marriage and to propose new protections, if needed.
Five, advance legislation to return to the people of the District of Columbia their right to vote on marriage.
This is a mistake on his part.
If they are going to have Gay Rights because they are born with it.....
Then for the same reason we need drinker and smokers rights, we are born with it too
We need special accommodation to be able to smoke in class and drink in public.
Same theory as the Gay Marriage folks .... Equal protection folks.
I don't necessarily disagree, but why do you say that?
It should be left up to the states.
What happens if a gay couple gets married in New York and moves to Georgia. Are they still married?
DOMA’s on Obama’s checklist.
Unfortunately, most feel it’s important for the govt to sanction their religious marriage. For that, some sectors of govt are now forcing homosexual marriage down their throats.
Maybe the legislators should mind their own damn business, and stay the hell out of one’s personal and religious affairs.
Like electric plugs and sockets, there is a physical reality behind the concept of marriage between two complimentary opposite systems.
Therefore, gay marriage is impossible.
I was about to come back and say that I’m being ambiguous.
This might be where I become a public enemy...but I think there are some people who are gay and who are born that way.
These people have a right to be conservatives.
I know that FR is the site for God and country and allthat....
I will say that in my life I have met great conservative men... who are gay. I would no sooner marry them than I would decide to join Warren Jeff’s cult. Oddly, I’ve known a few lesbians and they were all uber-libs.
Deep down... I think we ALL know that they gay people are gay.
“I don’t necessarily disagree, but why do you say that?”
The GOP message should be jobs, jobs, jobs. Anything that takes the focus away from that message is a distraction and helps Obama.
It should be left up to the states.
God begs to disagree.
Read my comment after this.
You won’t like it.
I don’t know the mind of God.
I'm 100% with you. This is absolutely the wrong time to be indulging in social conservatism sabre rattling, especially with several pretty strong socons in the race. Liberals will take any excuse to take the conversation off the economy they ruined, and on to more nebulous matters where they have an even shot.
And the term for those plugs and sockets is MALE and FEMALE. Just as the maker (or Maker) intended.
Therefore, gay marriage is impossible.
As I've stated in similar threads, count me in as an unabashed supporter for gay marriage. I'd like for 100% of all marriages to be nothing but gay marriages. Of course, I use "gay" in the original, rightful meaning of the term before the sodomites corrupted it. Marriages -- each between exactly one man and one woman -- ought to all be happy and joyous, thus gay.
I'll confess that I'm a tad selfish. Not only do I want my country back but I also want my word back! And, yes, I sick of the snickers from the younguns when "Deck the Halls" is sung.
“If they are going to have Gay Rights because they are born with it.....
Then for the same reason we need drinker and smokers rights, we are born with it too...”
You want to marry a cigarette or a beer? Anyone stopping you from smoking a cig or enjoying an adult beverage”
“We need special accommodation to be able to smoke in class and drink in public.”
So... you are still in school?
“Same theory as the Gay Marriage folks .... Equal protection folks.”
No... not really. Not really at all.
Yes.... you are right. Why should Perry sign on to this purity test when no one is asking Obama about his stance on gay marriage?
Don't worry, fellow heretic, I know what you mean. I'm always curious when people say it's a state matter, when people change states like socks. I don't think the government has any business in the marriage business, for or against it, but now that we're here, it's an issue that begs for solution.
This is a tough issue. Most people don't care about gay individuals, they care about the gay agenda. Even people who don't support gay marriage think that, for instance, Michelle Bachmann's husband trying to 'pray the gay away' is nothing short of snake handling. That makes this entire issue potentially poisonous to an otherwise ascendent GOP year.
So, how does the GOP deal with the thorny issue of respecting the rights of gay individuals, while not having to absorb an unwanted gay agenda that will enforce speech codes and carry legal ramifications?
I don't really know the answer to that.
They have asked Obama, and he has stated that he is opposed to gay marriage. I have a flyer sent to my home just before the 08 election in support of prop 8, the anti gay marriage initiative, and they use Obama’s comments on the issue to make their case. Prop 8 passed in part because there was a huge turnout of blacks and hispanics who are opposed to gay marriage.
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