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Christie vetoes bill and calls for 1 year moratorium on fracking while state studies the issue
Politicker NJ ^ | 08/25/2011 | Politicker Staff

Posted on 08/25/2011 2:09:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/25/2011 2:09:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The more I see of Cristie the more I’m sure he may never be ready for prime time.


2 posted on 08/25/2011 2:16:43 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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They need to ban fracking in New Jersey and New York, they have a good tax base why drill there when they can drill in Texas!!!!! We like those jobs and the water taste just fine. Only problem is we need a little rain...Them blasted oil companys are going to drill everywhere and drive the price of natural gas and oil down...hurray for New Jersey...lol


3 posted on 08/25/2011 2:21:16 PM PDT by wild74
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To: SeekAndFind

Fracking Idiot!


4 posted on 08/25/2011 2:23:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Steamburg

I’ll cut him a little slack on this issue. If a fair and honest technical evaluation is made, I’m sure it will show there’s no risk to drinking water from fracking, and then he’ll have all the evidence he needs to throw the whole thing out. It may be part of a strategery because a lot of the anti-fracking stuff is based on Algore-like “science”, and maybe Christie is playing the long game here.


5 posted on 08/25/2011 2:23:04 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: wild74

You have a point. If those bastards aren’t freezing in the dark they tend to get out of hand.


6 posted on 08/25/2011 2:25:51 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, boy. He is really going out on a limb. There ain’t one producing well in the entire state of New Jersey (nor will there ever be - famous last words) and the closest production is over 300 miles away in Pennsylvania.


7 posted on 08/25/2011 2:28:01 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: bigbob

The evidence is in already. Texas has been fracking wells for well over a decade with no ill effects from it. North Dakota is fracking like crazy in the Bakken, Pennsylvania in the Marcellus, Louisana in the Hayneville, etc. etc. etc. Christie is an east coast ‘conservative’ otherwise known as RINO.

He loves the attention and great press from the liberal MSM media, but is his views on global warming and taxes are way to the left of most of the conservatives in this country. He had a great week, raising tolls and banning fracking.


8 posted on 08/25/2011 2:43:23 PM PDT by milwguy
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I’ll cut him a little slack on this issue.

I won't. Fracking has been studied to death, both by the federal government (which surprisingly found it safe) and by numerous states. I admire Christie for reining in state spending, but I don't think he knows any more about business than Obama.

He is a lawyer, after all.

9 posted on 08/25/2011 2:47:29 PM PDT by BfloGuy (In old fashioned language, Keynes proposed cheating the workers.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Marcellus Shale formation doesn't lay under New Jersey. The shale formation does parallel, and is nearly on the northwest border with Pennsylvania/New York. Very close, but no cigar.

New Jersey Sierra Club/democrats going nuts for no good reason.

10 posted on 08/25/2011 2:49:11 PM PDT by muleskinner
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Christie vetoed the bill that would have prohibited fracking. He then imposed a one year moratorium on fracking: “I am placing a one-year moratorium on fracking so that the DEP can further evaluate the potential environmental impacts of this practice in New Jersey as well as evaluate the findings of still outstanding and ongoing federal studies.”

Seems like a reasonable course of action to me.

11 posted on 08/25/2011 2:58:21 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Steamburg
The more I see of Cristie the more I’m sure he may never be ready for prime time.

His heftness is for all for Muzzies judging Americans but is against another source of domestic energy. As Rick Perry said, "Adios..."

12 posted on 08/25/2011 3:06:38 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A hundred years ago oil operators exploded nitroglycerin in shallow wells in Pennsylvania. Drake’s well in 1859 found oil at 70 ft. Guess the area is uninhabitable after 150 years of oil operations.


13 posted on 08/25/2011 3:09:54 PM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s moronic.


14 posted on 08/25/2011 3:22:47 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Steamburg
Reading comprehension, FRiends!
Did any of you all read even the excerpt? He vetoed a bill than banned fracking outright. He basically said you'll got a year to prove your case. I'm with Christie on this one.
15 posted on 08/25/2011 3:47:45 PM PDT by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: wild74

my thoughts exactly - let them heat their homes with coal oil and high dollar electric from WIND. Don’t let them have natural gas furnaces.


16 posted on 08/25/2011 3:48:24 PM PDT by q_an_a (uues)
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To: visualops

than=that


17 posted on 08/25/2011 3:48:24 PM PDT by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: BfloGuy

I own seven acres in frack-land NY. I haven’t been approached by any gas company, probably because they were just starting to get out to that area when NY put the brakes on.

While I like the idea of fracking, there have been big issues. Roads, streams, ponds - all negatively impacted wherever the fracking takes place. As in destroyed.

There are quite a few families in frack-zones that have had their water sources permanently polluted. Some can actually light the kitchen sink faucet, and it flames up real nice.

Are these nice trade-offs? Well, not if you’ve been assured it could NOT happen. And since the frack companies refuse to admit that the chems and processes used are responsible for the changes, they claim that “it has never been shown or proven” to be a problem.

Since they did not admit any responsibility, they can legally make that claim. And just to be nice, although they have no responsibility, morally or legally to do so, they provide those families with bottled drinking water for the rest of their lives.

I heard the most outrageous nonsense today on the local radio talk show. Some pro-frack guy was strumming the harp strings of happiness and goodwill while mentioning all the wonderful things that fracking will do “for the community”....

Yes, like kids will suddenly have college money. (Maybe-but only the VERY few whose parents own large parcels) (and didn’t get screwed in the early negotiations), and if there are people in need in the community, the gas company (angles began to strum harps again here) would help them all. Yes, this man actually said that if a person down on his luck in the community couldn’t make his CAR PAYMENT, the gas companies would step up and help him out.

I was flat out disgusted listening to the guy. All I could think of was that woman who said she didn’t have to worry about paying her mortgage or putting gas in her car, cause obama was gonna take care of it for her.

Listen, if someone starts running around telling me that busting up the roads, draining streams and ponds dry, destroying generational wells, is all good because they will be paying some losers delinquent car payment, I gotta take a few seconds to think it all over.

Fracking hasn’t been studied in the way that it is presented. What you hear is only the side of the gas companies. I hope they can find some better chems to use, and tighten things up on how they operate, because I would love to see this work out. And I could use the cash!

As it stands now, I’m not a fan. Once these water sources are compromised, they can never be put right. That is my main concern.

Also, they are already talking about raising everyone’s property taxes because a very few people have made out well on the leases. That jackas* on the talk show claimed that the gas companies will come in and split the difference with the community if they see a tax increase -”due to increased property values because of gas leases”.

Sure, if the gas companies would ever admit that the reason was due to gas production, which won’t happen-ever! Shell games.


18 posted on 08/25/2011 3:50:08 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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What a bunch of hooie!

Luckily for the rest of NY their Democrat Governor is on the fracking bandwagon, ready to bring good jobs to NY.

Here in PA it’s been fantastic. Now eastern Ohio smelting plants are being brought back online to provide the materials needed here in PA.

I’ve been saying for years that Christie is a moron when it comes to energy issues. Here he proves it once again.


19 posted on 08/25/2011 4:30:38 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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I figure the only reason these politicians are against it is because the gas companies haven’t made it worth their while yet.

My concerns are mainly about the water sources being polluted. It has happened, and will continue to happen. If the gas companies would actually address that, instead of telling people it’s really a non-issue, then I be thrilled to have fracking move forward.

I’ve spoken with a lot of other landowners about this, and they are split 50/50. The folks without land to lease are roughly the same mix - the ones that even know about it.

One other thing we are concerned with is the future value of land that is fracked, but non-productive. Same goes with a property that has no lease yet has a rig sitting right on it’s property line.

I know a woman who has 120 acres of beautiful rolling hills and light forest. She signed a gas lease. She leased all but an acre that her crappy little house sits on. Now she wants to sell her property and move out of state. No one will even look at it - they don’t want to buy land if they have no mineral rights, no benefit from this fracking, and have to deal with the noise, destruction, etc., for however long the gas company is there. Since the house sits right in the middle of that big parcel, it is unsalable. And she didn’t even get a good offer from the gas company. But she was greedy and jumped right on the first offer, and is now wailing about how screwed over she feels and how worthless her property has become.


20 posted on 08/26/2011 9:46:38 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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