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Private planes, private no more
Chicago Tribune ^ | 8-24-2011 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 08/25/2011 1:04:07 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules

"Both general aviation and commercial aircraft use the public airspace and air traffic control facilities, and the public has a right to information about their activities." Oh, please. We all use public streets and sidewalks, which doesn't mean the police have a right to monitor our movements and let the world know where we go.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aircraft; airplanes; airtraffic; aviation; flying; generalaviation
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To: sloop
Nice looking amphibian. Be carefull of "vaporware" that also exists in aviation before putting down a deposit.

IMO, highwing A/C make better seaplanes. They're easier to dock and you can convert them to bush planes. On the negative side, they make a lot of noise and burn a lot of fuel while taking a longer time to get somewhere with the floats attached.

Check out http://www.cubcrafters.com/

and EAA's Coverage of the 2010 Valdez STOL Competition

To each his own... ;)

81 posted on 08/26/2011 10:01:05 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Everything you said, except, "For reversal, I dont’ even bother as it is pointless".

It will be reversed and freedom established worldwide. BUT it will not happen without tremendous sacrifice or Divine intervention. It has already begun...

82 posted on 08/26/2011 10:11:43 AM PDT by Errant
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To: 1010RD

Those on the bus should remember that if Obama gets re-elected, he has no further use for them.


83 posted on 08/26/2011 10:19:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Palter
No one 'edited' anything.

An excerpt from the editorial was posted, in accordance with the rules of this site. If you don't like it, you should probably take it up with the folks who run FR.

84 posted on 08/26/2011 10:27:33 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Someone with enough entrepreneurial spuck could set up a company to help other companies monitor the corporate jet activity of their competitors. Investment firms might also monitor corporate travel plans for patterns and destinations which might indicated mergers or market expansion. This privacy violating policy change will have many unintended consequences.


85 posted on 08/26/2011 10:59:58 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: DoughtyOne

great observation D.O....


86 posted on 08/26/2011 11:58:02 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: DoughtyOne

In September ‘09, an article appeared in the Hemet, CA based Valley Chronicle. It was about a vehicle upgrade for the police department of neighboring San Jacinto. The vehicle was capable of reading and recording every license plate in range and feeding that information into a computer programmed to check for “stolen cars, wanted people and others.” All that being done automatically.

This link used to take a reader to the story but the Valley Chronicle, a month or so after this story appeared, started charging for archive access.

http://www.thevalleychronicle.com/articles/2009/09/25/news/doc4abd23cabc2ea596279131.txt

I expect technocracy has improved their control over the last few years. Or at least had US taxpayers buy more of these vehicles to be spread strategically across the nation.


87 posted on 08/26/2011 12:18:19 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: sodpoodle

sodpoodle,
I live on a private airpark.
I fly out of my back yard to all over the country and unless I plan on going in to a “control tower or Military opps area I NEVER file a flight plan and try to NOT talk to anyone. Before I go I check weather, and for notices to airmen so I don’t fly over this damned president.
AND I do NOT smuggle nor use drugs.
What I and countless pilots do is legal and safe.


88 posted on 08/26/2011 12:34:10 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) an affirmative action mistake)
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To: Joe Boucher

Thx Joe,

I was asking questions - not assuming (except for believing that all pilots had to file flight plans and contact ATC when in certain airspace).

As you may have noted - another poster began educating me - so if I offended - it was innocent ignorance;)


89 posted on 08/26/2011 12:39:10 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: UCANSEE2

You have 4 posts on this thread, all SHOUTING THE SAME CLAIM without providing any evidence at all.

So, now I calmly ask:

CAN YOU LINK TO ANY DOCUMENTATION BACKING UP YOUR CLAIM?

Thank you in advance.


90 posted on 08/26/2011 12:45:28 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Petruchio

I have seen news items on tv talking about state/local .gov slugs doing mileage based taxing. So far no joy (for them) but they’ll keep trying. Good possibility .gov wants to do similar things with GA. I have no links to offer but info is out there!


91 posted on 08/26/2011 1:31:27 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

I have no doubts that this administration would love to tax the rich, (those that can afford to fly) in order to fund more outrageous liberal/progressive programs that cater to the favored minority groups.

I just want to be sure when someone SHOUTS it as fact, that it is . . .


92 posted on 08/26/2011 1:42:04 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: taxcontrol

“All pilots have to file flight plans”.
You know not what you speak of pal.
I fly two three times a week and file squat and talk to NO one.


93 posted on 08/26/2011 1:56:07 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) an affirmative action mistake)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
This is exactly how government tyranny develops.

Who many times have you heard people (even freepers) say you don't have a right to drive, its privilege? Yeah, let the almighty government decide.

94 posted on 08/26/2011 2:03:10 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Errant

Thanks! The follow up question was not from me but my girlfriend, who nudged me to ask it but it did kinda make sense. Well, she’s a blonde ;P

The links were great as well.


95 posted on 08/26/2011 3:47:16 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Joe Boucher

I stand corrected. I based my comment on my pilot friend who stated that he always had to file a flight plan. Might just be his circumstances.


96 posted on 08/26/2011 3:54:57 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: max americana

Crossing international boarders is different. It used to be a phone call no less then 1 hour, and no more then 24 hours in advance, and then a stop a the port of entry (airport with customs).

It’s changed since 911 however.....

http://clisefamily.com/checklist_for_flying_to_canada.htm


97 posted on 08/26/2011 4:16:48 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: max americana

Crossing international boarders is different. It used to be a phone call no less then 1 hour, and no more then 24 hours in advance, and then a stop a the port of entry (airport with customs).

It’s changed since 911 however.....

http://clisefamily.com/checklist_for_flying_to_canada.htm


98 posted on 08/26/2011 4:16:55 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog

I fly a lot in the summer. No way in hell do I file a flight plan for a 100 mile jump, no will I in the future. Who is going to enforce this crap???


99 posted on 08/26/2011 4:38:41 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

“We all use public streets and sidewalks, which doesn’t mean the police have a right to monitor our movements and let the world know where we go.”

Actually, there is now judicial precedent from the DC court of appeals, a pretty influential one, that allows police to attach a GPS unit to your vehicle without a warrant. So technically, they came before us before Hood brought them after the planes.

The case is going before the Supremes soon—see http://volokh.com/2011/06/27/supreme-court-agrees-to-review-case-on-gps-and-the-fourth-amendment/.

I’m betting they rule with the police again.


100 posted on 08/26/2011 5:01:11 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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