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Apparently 8,500 people from the Verizon strike filed for benefits, spiking the numbers.

Continuing claims dropped 80K, most likely from people dropping out of the workforce.

1 posted on 08/25/2011 6:06:46 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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they voluntarily left their employment, how can they get benefits? Doesn’t the union take care of that during a strike?


2 posted on 08/25/2011 6:10:05 AM PDT by newnhdad
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quote “ Initial claims from two weeks ago were revised up to 412,000 from an original reading of 408,000”

how unexpected!

DRINK!


3 posted on 08/25/2011 6:11:24 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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Apparently 8,500 people from the Verizon strike filed for benefits, spiking the numbers.

I'm doubting this arguement. Now my knowledge of UI and strikers is dated (early 70's) but IIRC, at that time only NY and RI allowed UI to be paid to strikers and in NY it was only after being out for 7 weeks.

4 posted on 08/25/2011 6:11:24 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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Sad. Watch Obama try another STIMULUS to pay his fat cat friends off.


6 posted on 08/25/2011 6:16:01 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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How Yahoo/AP is headlining/reporting...

Verizon strike boosts unemployment aid requests

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Thousands of Verizon workers on strike pushed the number of Americans seeking unemployment benefits last week to its highest level in a month.

But excluding the work stoppage, layoffs likely fell. That should help ease fears that the U.S. economy is on the verge of a recession.

Investors appeared to overlook the report. Stock futures held most of their early gains.

9 posted on 08/25/2011 6:18:53 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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The numbers are always revised up never down. People they're lying to us. Do not trust the governments figures ever...
11 posted on 08/25/2011 6:26:11 AM PDT by Doofer ("If debt is the problem, how is more debt the solution"?)
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Unexpectedly unexpected.


12 posted on 08/25/2011 6:28:43 AM PDT by rbg81
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Is this the initial jobless claims lie or is this a “revised” and slightly more truthful lie?


13 posted on 08/25/2011 6:30:50 AM PDT by henkster (Socialists and liberals all want jobs; they just don't want to work.)
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Zero will be blaming the Virginia earthquake as well as Irene for the poor jobless numbers for the month of August.


14 posted on 08/25/2011 6:32:25 AM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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My friends wife just got laid off Tuesday, so you can add one more to the total.


15 posted on 08/25/2011 6:37:15 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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“Initial claims from two weeks ago were revised up to 412,000 from an original reading of 408,000”

And that very nicely explains why we have so much instability and volatility in the World markets; not just here in the US. Nobody can rely on any of the statistics that come out, because we are constantly seeing these revisions weeks later that prove nothing the Government says is believable.


16 posted on 08/25/2011 6:37:41 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep saying it.....)
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I didn’t think strikers could apply for UE...........................


17 posted on 08/25/2011 6:39:47 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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The average of new claims over the past four weeks, meanwhile, increased by 4,000 to 407,500...In addition, the Labor Department said the number of Americans who continue to receive state unemployment checks fell by 80,000 to 3.64 million in the week ended Aug 13. Continuing claims are reported with a one-week lag.

The "average" appears to be wrong. If today is 417 and that was up from last week, and a previous week was revised up to 412, but last week and all of the last 16 weeks or so has been above 400,000, then I think the average is using the unrevised numbers instead of the corrected numbers. Therefore, the average of 12 and 17 alone is 7+ all by itself and all of the other weeks were ABOVE 400,000.

I agree. Any downward number in unemployment checks is due to running out of benefits and dropping out of the numbers.

It's a cushy way to count numbers. You get to pretend that real unemployed people don't count as unemployed. You get to claim that unemployment is falling when it is in fact, in real numbers, at depression-level highs.

18 posted on 08/25/2011 6:42:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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There likely is not a nefarious reason for the upward revisions — although I can’t rule that out.

The real reason for the upward revisions is more ominous for the overall economy.

Economists — vetted as being relatively non-partisan — have told me that a pattern of upward OR downward revisions suggests a direction of momentum.

For example, during the mid years of the GWB administration, the typical pattern was to have upward revisions in the payroll numbers, and downward revisions in the jobless claims.

Why? the economy and the job markets were tending to grow during those — seem like so long ago — years of 2003 through 2007.

So the direction of the revisions suggested — although were no guarantee — a direction of the future economy.

Similarly, the pattern of upward revisions for the jobless claims is a hint that the direction for employment is toward EROSION — NOT healing.

It also may be that this means the jobless claims never got below 400K for a lengthening streak of weeks and months.

WSJ said the weekly numbers have been below 400K only once since April. But it wasn’t clear if that included the final figures after the usual upward revisions.


21 posted on 08/25/2011 7:04:49 AM PDT by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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Countdown to Hussein blaming:
Bush,
Irene,
Japan,
Tea Partiers:

22 posted on 08/25/2011 7:05:59 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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23 posted on 08/25/2011 7:23:58 AM PDT by blam
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24 posted on 08/25/2011 8:00:44 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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Bammy always accused Republicans of driving the economy into the ditch but Americans are now realizing that there’s nobody at the wheel.


26 posted on 08/25/2011 8:15:39 AM PDT by Crucial
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the obama economy.


27 posted on 08/25/2011 8:48:34 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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28 posted on 08/25/2011 8:52:01 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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