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Are Libyan Reports of Defeat LIES? (Actual Title: Falsified New York Times Middle East Reports)
The Sovereign Independent. ^ | August 22, 2011 | By By Stephen Lendman

Posted on 08/22/2011 9:03:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz

They appear daily like weeds on all topics. As a result, Times reports aren’t fit to read, let alone print. August 18 was no exception, publishing lies about Libyan insurgent victories.

On August 18, headlining, “Libyan Rebels Gain Control of Oil Refinery as Qaddafi Forces Flee,” Kareem Fahim’s article was pure Pentagon propaganda, duplicitously lying to readers.

Yet he said “(r)ebel fighters claimed complete control of a sprawling (Zawiyah) oil refinery, seizing one of (Gaddafi’s) most important assets after just three days of fighting and delivering the latest in a string of small victories that have suddenly put the rebels at Tripoli’s door.”

Reporting from Tripoli, independent Middle East/Central Asian analyst, Mahdi Nazemroaya refuted him, telling Progressive Radio News Hour listeners that:

– Gaddafi forces are winning;

– rebels are in disarray;

– the so-called National Transitional Council (NTC) is falling apart;

– Misrata was liberated from rebels;

– Tripoli is peaceful and calm, despite daily NATO bombing, willfully targeting civilians and nonmilitary sites;

– scattered fighting continues along routes to Tunisia and elsewhere;

– arteries between the two countries remain open;

– Intense Western propaganda wants to intimidate Gaddafi supporters to give up hope of prevailing;

– it’s had the opposite effect, in fact, galvanizing Libyans overwhelmingly behind Gaddafi, making him by far the most popular African/Middle East leader; and

– his forces control Gheryan, Sorman, Sabratha, and Zawiyah, its oil refinery and others; reports saying otherwise are lies; rebels are south of the city, not in it.

(Excerpt) Read more at sovereignindependent.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libya; msm; nato; nyt; obamaganda; obamunism; regimechange
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To: onyx

Yes.


21 posted on 08/22/2011 9:43:01 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

“A Four-alarm fire in Downtown Moscow clears way for a glorious new tractor factory.”


22 posted on 08/22/2011 9:43:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: onyx
It was too dang odd that the Marxist didn’t rush to the TV to take credit.

He was probably on his way to when someone smarter than he is, the mouse in the rose garden maybe, stopped him from virtually assassinating himself.

23 posted on 08/22/2011 9:43:27 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Lazamataz


24 posted on 08/22/2011 9:51:12 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: dfwgator

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/peaceandprogress.wma/


25 posted on 08/22/2011 9:53:06 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

That was by far the creepiest interval signal, freaked the dickens out of me the first time I heard it.


26 posted on 08/22/2011 9:54:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lazamataz

But McCain and Linsey led a victory parade last night. Doesn’t that count for something?


27 posted on 08/22/2011 9:59:00 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o
Don't get me wrong, the Rebels may win.

Just that it is not as it is being reported.

28 posted on 08/22/2011 10:00:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (SmithL stole my tagline and won't give it back.)
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To: dfwgator

I thought you’d appreciate that. Of course, when the time comes, Radio Hope and Change will require its own SW interval signal. I hope it’s not a Ludacris song.


29 posted on 08/22/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I especially loved the part about being the “voice of Soviet public opinion.” As if these guys went around Moscow asking people their opinions.


30 posted on 08/22/2011 10:04:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lazamataz

Brazenly lying to our faces for 60 years . . . MAYBE less boldly for another 40+ years before that.

Super brazenly from at least Klintoons on.


31 posted on 08/22/2011 10:10:26 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: onyx

Othuga probably knows that

he’s just a glorified clerk—black talking teleprompter driven head

in the overall scheme of things.

He knows he has little say in it all.


32 posted on 08/22/2011 10:10:46 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: dfwgator
"Comrade, I am taking survey. Please to answer this question: Should Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev continue to serve as General Secretary of the Communist Party for five more years, or would you prefer to serve 5-year term in the Lubyanka? "
33 posted on 08/22/2011 10:25:12 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: dfwgator

It is extremely creepy.


34 posted on 08/22/2011 10:25:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (SmithL stole my tagline and won't give it back.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

LOL, that pretty much it.

OTOH, always enjoyed hearing “Moscow Nights” on Radio Moscow, always thought it was cool tune.


35 posted on 08/22/2011 10:27:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lazamataz

It just fits so neatly into the Obama as FDR fantasy that the MSM is putting forth.

The cool and confident leader of the free world spurring the allies on to victory from his vacation retreat. Uninterested, yet engaged.

I expect of photo of him cruising in a yacht in a white v-neck and a cigarette holder.

I would not be at all surprised if this were pre-arranged.

I can’t wait until the Middle East crap blows up in his face.


36 posted on 08/22/2011 10:32:44 AM PDT by keat
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To: dfwgator
That is a nice tune, actually.

Okay now: I see that Obama is going to speak on Libya at 2pm ET. Drudge has taken down the banner from earlier that made it seem like Tripoli was about to fall, and FOX News reports the situation is "chaotic". One wonders what is really going on there. One also worries about what's really going on there...

37 posted on 08/22/2011 10:38:26 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Lazamataz; onyx

“We have defeated the evil forces of American aggression”... Baghdad Bob 1980s


38 posted on 08/22/2011 10:42:14 AM PDT by tubebender (The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some very good ideas)
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To: Lazamataz

If it’s the Slimes, the default answer is, “If its the Times, of course its wrong, but everyone at the network assignment desks will jump through their arses to chase the story!”

Be well.


39 posted on 08/22/2011 10:49:11 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: onyx

Ok... a little birdie tells me that quote was from the 1990s but one decade looks just like the last one when you’re approaching 80


40 posted on 08/22/2011 11:28:25 AM PDT by tubebender (The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some very good ideas)
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