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Our Gay-Marriage Experiment (Polls show that more Americans favor it now than 15 years ago)
National Review ^ | 08/22/2011 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/22/2011 7:36:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

One of the few issues on which opinion has moved left over the last few years is same-sex marriage. In 1996, Gallup found that Americans opposed it by a 68 percent to 27 percent margin. Last May, Gallup found Americans in favor by 53 percent to 45 percent. That’s a huge change in 15 years.

Other polls have shown similar movement. Pew Research reported last week that 45 percent favored same-sex marriage and 46 percent were opposed — a dead heat. Pew polls in 2008 and 2009 found only 35 percent to 40 percent in favor.

This is an issue on which the differences between age groups are as large as any I can remember. In the May Gallup poll, 70 percent of those under age 35 favored same-sex marriage. Only 39 percent of those over 55 agreed.

So while opinion on one controversial cultural issue, abortion, has not changed much, opinion on same-sex marriage has changed vastly.

Why? One reason is probably that as people learn that friends and relatives are gay, they become more sympathetic to gay rights. We see a similar change in voters’ willingness to elect openly gay candidates to Congress and other offices.

But increasing support for same-sex marriage causes problems for politicians. When two-thirds of voters were opposed, it didn’t: Almost everyone opposed it. Possible exception: Barack Obama, running for state senate in a university-dominated district in 1996.

As a candidate for U.S. senator and president, Obama said he opposed same-sex marriage. As president, he says he still does, but his opinion is “evolving.”

This may reflect a split between Democratic core constituencies. Affluent liberals overwhelmingly favor same-sex marriage. But most black voters are opposed.

In a 2008 referendum in California, 70 percent of blacks voted against same-sex marriage. A same-sex-marriage bill was defeated this year in Maryland after black Democratic legislators opposed it. Same-sex marriage would be legal in California and Maryland were it not for opposition by black voters.

Mainstream media reporters pepper Republican presidential candidates with questions about the issue but seldom ask Obama about it. But if it’s a fair question for Republicans, it’s a fair question for Democrats, as well.

The problem for Republican politicians is not that opposition to same-sex marriage antagonizes gay voters. According to exit polls in the last three presidential elections, gays and lesbians made up just 3 percent of the electorate, and they were one of the few groups that voted for John McCain in 2008 in larger numbers than had voted for George W. Bush in 2004.

The Republicans’ problem is young voters. Huge majorities of them favor same-sex marriage, and for most of them it’s simply a no-brainer. They must have been turned off if they were watching the Republican presidential candidates vie with each other in opposing it in the Fox News/Washington Examiner debate in Iowa.

The constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage that they supported is never going to get a two-thirds vote in Congress or be ratified by three-quarters of state legislatures. Unless the Supreme Court rules there is a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, this is an issue that is going to be decided by the states.

Opponents of same-sex marriage argue that it would weaken the institution of the family. Certainly there are problems there: Rising percentages of children are raised by one parent or none, and nearly 50 percent of teenage children in non-college households did not live with both parents. Yet outcomes for children raised in two-parent families are far better than for those who are not.

But as one who favors same-sex marriage for reasons set out in Jonathan Rauch’s 2004 book Gay Marriage, I think the institution of the family is less threatened by a few people who want to get married than by the very many more people who get divorced or who have children without getting married at all.

In any case, we now have an experiment going on. Some 11 percent of Americans live in the six states and the District of Columbia that allow same-sex marriage. That would rise to 23 percent if California voters, who narrowly rejected it, switch. Other states may follow. On the other hand, states where blacks and white evangelical Protestants form a majority are unlikely to accept it any time soon.

We will be able to see how things work out and make judgments, without much need for guidance from our presidents or presidential candidates.

— Michael Barone is senior political analyst for the Washington Examiner


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturaldecay; gaymarriage; gays; homonaziagenda; homosexuality; incest; pedophilia; polygamy; polygyny
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To: WashingtonSource
Barone is drinking the purple Kool Aid from the fag lobby.

And I want to know why. Why do RNC members tolerate homosexuals in their midst and help them subvert and undercut conservatives on the subject?

You know that was why Senator (and now presidential primary candidate) Rick Santorum was traduced, betrayed, and thrown to the wolves politically -- because he was so decent, and so conservative. The RNC and Karl Rove destroyed him.

41 posted on 08/22/2011 5:10:42 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: SeekAndFind

More people are getting desensitized, plus they don’t understand that it doesn’t stop at gay so-called marriage, it eventually infringes on our freedoms, including religious freedoms.


42 posted on 08/22/2011 6:51:47 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: what's up

“As general codes of masculinity erode, the heterosexual male loses his ability and the dedication necessary to be a strong husband and father. Homosexual propoganda speeds the process.

“In other words, getting rid of gay activism and propoganda (and hopefully replacing it with positive messages about heterosexuality) would indeed strengthen the institution of the traditional family. Men need positive messages to succeed in marriage, not the negative garbage we get 24/7. “

Agreed. Along those lines, I watched 2 reruns of “Father Knows Best” on the Antenna TV network today. I loved both episodes. They totally endorsed the traditional family with intelligent writing and acting. And the positive image of the strong, intelligent Dad in Robert Young’s character was terrific and refreshing.


43 posted on 08/22/2011 8:42:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Battle fatigue?
Where was the fight? I don't remember conservatives making a big deal of this after 1996 or so. The gay left runs the media and the schools, and we gave them our children. We watch their agitprop and reward advertisers funding said propaganda. Outside of some religious institutions, no one fought against homosexuality as deviant, unsafe, and bad for society. We all but surrendered for 15 years. And after a generation of propaganda, the weak minded have fallen and become corrupted. And it is our fault. We did not fight the morality war on homosexuality, or the deeper social and political rot that comes from the belief in unrestrained equality.

Of course, it's not a fare fight. Limp spined and limp-wrist loving Barone thinks that New York lawfully passed gay marriage, we did not. It was passed illegally under special rules without debate. And it pased because 4 Republicans lied to their constituents and sold out. There was no referendum. We the peons cannot vote. And our elected leaders care not a wit for our opinion. And that starts with the liberals running the GOP in NY, the same liberals that Barone loves. The sad part is National Review running this garbage.

44 posted on 08/23/2011 2:26:25 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

You totally missed my point. Everything you said is true about the liberal influence in our media and our schools and our culture, and that is fatigueing.

I also meant that the fatigue comes from so many battles, not expenditure of energy on this issue. Like I said, you missed my point.


45 posted on 08/23/2011 5:30:01 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: so_real
...with respect to percentages of HPV infections, AIDS infections, domestic violence, infidelity, drug abuse, etc, etc, etc...

Add to that...suicide.

46 posted on 08/23/2011 5:35:43 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Barone has got to have some screws loose. How in the world can he defend such a position. Where are the stats to back that one up? I have to shake my head in disbelief sometimes. With all this talk of being “progressive” and “moving forward,” you’ve got to ask yourself, just what in the world it is we’re progressing to? What are we moving towards? The only conclusion one can come to is...we’re heading for the proverbial cliff and the point of no return. Just look at the mess our society is in! For all the talk of “freedom,” “liberation,” “to each his/her own,” “if it feels good, just do it” crapola...look at the mess we are in! In the words of the infamous Maxine Waters, liberals/progressives and the ills they’ve plagued upon our society, well...they can all just go straight to...


47 posted on 08/23/2011 5:47:19 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: lentulusgracchus

And I want to know why. Why do RNC members tolerate homosexuals in their midst and help them subvert and undercut conservatives on the subject?<<<

Because they’re liberals and atheists. The rot has infected both parties.


48 posted on 08/23/2011 2:28:02 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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