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Perry defends stance on Fed, immigration
Political Ticker - CNN ^ | 082011 | Shawna Shepherd

Posted on 08/21/2011 4:30:39 PM PDT by Fred

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As governor of the state that shares the largest border with Mexico, Perry defended his record on immigration, including his support for allowing illegal immigrants to get in-state tuition rates at Texas universities but opposing such a law on a national level.

"I'm a big believer in the 10th amendment," Perry said. "Whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be in that state, it needs to be the states making that decisions."

Perry wouldn't wade into a national immigration reform debate, deferring to his position that those decisions should be made on the state level, "not by the federal government making one size-fits-all."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arizona; everify; illegals; janbrewer; laraza; maldef; perry; perrytards; rinofreeamerica; sb1070; shootingfromthelip; texas; texican
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To: Mariner

No, he didnt.


41 posted on 08/21/2011 6:14:46 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Mariner

I agree.

But Perry is not responsible for Nafta. He did however have to comply with it because it had already been signed.

You can thank Bill Clinton and George H. W. Bush (Bush 1)for that one.


42 posted on 08/21/2011 6:15:18 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: Fred

Perry is an Illegal immigrant enabler and we need no more of them!

A country which won’t secure it’s border soon stops being a country.

When you are giving away free food, housing, medical care and education not understanding that it will bring illegals in droves is like expecting that if you sit out a manure pile it won’t draw flies!


43 posted on 08/21/2011 6:16:37 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mariner

NAFTA is a bad deal for the U.S. Honda just announced that it is building a major plant there. Honda’s U.S. plants are non-union and have had no labor problems.

Perry has been a strong supporter of NAFTA. Watch for this to be the next issue he flips on.


44 posted on 08/21/2011 6:25:09 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: hellbender

You think the federal government has something to do with the nations border? It is more federal than state.


45 posted on 08/21/2011 6:35:30 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: TexMom7
Who in the Republican GOP running for office is tough on illegal immigration?

Perry won't tell us what he would do about illegal immigration. Except "secure the border," which is the same thing GW Bush, Janet Napolitano, John McCain said.... in fact I can't think of any of them who don't claim they will "secure the border," even radical Hispanic congresscrooks.

46 posted on 08/21/2011 6:51:59 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Mariner
He states, in his own words on his CURRENT website that his shares Vincente Fox's vision of an "open border" between Mexico and the USA.

Link please.

47 posted on 08/21/2011 6:56:02 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: jospehm20

[ Not really. He wants the border secured, Bush did not. ]

He says he wants the border secured... that can mean anything.. WALL?... Mines?.... death squads?.. Rhetoric?.. What?..


48 posted on 08/21/2011 6:59:11 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Fred

Perry will do on immigration whatever the Chamber of Commerce, Wall St Journal, and Texas business boys club tell him to do, namely support amnesty and open borders. He will be as bad as Bush. His reluctance to say anything and his phony defense of states’ rights is a cover story.

Let’s end the Perry worship and move on to the true conservatives. Right now the Republican party is wired to pick the candidate the MSM wants, just like McCain and Dole.


49 posted on 08/21/2011 7:03:14 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: jospehm20
>> Not really. He wants the border secured, Bush did not. <<

Both Bush and Perry insisted they were "against amnesty" and wanted the borders secured. Both GOVERNED in a way that did the opposite.

Here is a George W. Bush quote on border security:

"America needs to secure our borders--and with your help, my administration is taking steps to do so. We’re increasing worksite enforcement, deploying fences and advanced technologies to stop illegal crossings. We’ve effectively ended the policy of “catch and release” at the border, and by the end of this year, we will have doubled the number of border patrol agents."
Source: George W. Bush, State of the Union address to Congress Jan 28, 2008

And this differs from Perry playing footsie with illegals but vowing that feds should "secure the border" how?

50 posted on 08/21/2011 7:08:34 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: hosepipe

I don’t know the details of all he said but I know that he talked about troops on the border and suggested using drones to identify and track border crashers. One huge difference that I have noticed between Republicans and ‘rats is that the Rs tend to respond if people make enough noise. I remember when Bush did his big amnesty push in 2006 and everybody raised hell. He ended up dropping it and we got promised a border fence, which the ‘rats promptly killed when they took over Congress. Contrast that to what happened when we the people raised even more hell about Obamacare. We got it shoved down our throats anyways because that is how the ‘rats roll. Look at how Obama and the ‘rats are responding to the call by the majority of citizens to reduce spending, they are spending faster. Any Republican that gets elected President will be better than Obama or any other ‘rat on every single issue and also much more responsive to the citizen’s wishes. I really believe that to be true.


51 posted on 08/21/2011 7:17:00 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Fred

Wrong Governor perry. the States rights are to those citizens of its states. Your advancing of perceived or real benefits to foreign citizens is a defacto treaty which is the exclusive realm of the President and the Senate. Each person you allow monies from Texas Taxpayers to from a foreign nation now has the agreement with texas and their nation by virtue of their foreign national status. in other words...its completly illegal.


52 posted on 08/21/2011 7:19:04 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Kartographer

Hey Kart, greetings from the high mountains of The ‘American Redoubt’! “Enabler”?? you have that right! He is 100%! Then also there is the fraud Perry’s muslim ‘problem’ that none of his supporters wish to speak about, or want us to bring up. How in God’s name can any true conservative politician support and pander openly to the people who follow the ‘Religion’ that attacked us on 9/11? We are so screwed if this phony is the best we can do as the the Repub’s. top spot pick next Pres. election.


53 posted on 08/21/2011 7:19:32 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: hellbender
>> Meanwhile, Perry blames the Feds for not closing the border in his state. Typical Tricky Rick tactic, trying to have it both ways. <<

Rick Perry groupies basically have two talking points:

1) EVERY controversal issue on the planet (gay marriage, abortion on demand, etc.) is the SOLE responsibility of the states and can be magically resolved if we simply "send it back to the states" and wash our hands of it. (worked great for slavery, didn't it?). However, the EXCEPTION to this rule is Texas' ability to secure their OWN border. According to Rick Perry groupies, that is COMPLETELY the federal government's job and Rick Perry shares absolutely NO blame for the zillions of illegals living comfortably in his state! Texas has NO right to pass an AZ-style immigration law. The buck DOESN'T stop there!

2) No one's record is perfect. Therefore, if you criticize Perry's record in ANY way because he did a mediocre job, you're a "purist" who wants "perfection". However, the EXCEPTION to this rule is that Sarah Palin's endorsement record IS perfect and if she endorsed someone for Governor, that makes them the ideal Presidential candidate and the second coming of Reagan. NO ONE may question Sarah Palin's endorsements (forget about that little endorsement she made for McCain's re-election last year)

Schizophrenic bunch, aren't they? ;-)

54 posted on 08/21/2011 7:20:21 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Perry is not Bush. He has put Texas assets on the border which Bush never did and he has asked the feds to put troops on the border and I don’t remember Bush doing that either. He may not be as tough on this issue as many would like but he is better than Bush was.


55 posted on 08/21/2011 7:32:47 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: comebacknewt
There are more than one attacks on our country going on. Refusing to enforce immigration laws is one attack. We can lose our country with Obama/Democrat socialism and we can lose it with Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama immigration policies.

Soft on immigration, we can afford 4 or 8 more years.

Deal breaker, if true.

56 posted on 08/21/2011 7:55:13 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Mariner; TexMom7
Put up a deouble walled fence with a road between them...armed observation posts ever 400yds. Trucks every 5 miles.

What's your plan, Mariner? Are you going to fill the Rio Grande with cement so you can build your fantasy wall and road?

57 posted on 08/21/2011 8:00:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jospehm20; BillyBoy
Perry is not Bush. He has put Texas assets on the border which Bush never did and he has asked the feds to put troops on the border and I don’t remember Bush doing that either. He may not be as tough on this issue as many would like but he is better than Bush was.

Sorry but throwing money away at a problem using ineffective methods proves nothing. Bush did the same thing.

The problem is that Perry is against everything that would actually solve the problem, everything that is effective:

1. E-Verify
2. Interior Enforcement like AZ1070 that would actually make uncomfortable to be here, hard to find a job.
3. Border Wall/Fence.



Then he makes he hands out candy, so to speak, in the form of in-state tuition for Illegals already here, effectively putting out the welcome mat and saying with a wink and a nod, it's OK, we're really not all that serious about keeping Illegal Immigrants out of Texas.

You then couple that with the low-income social programs he has implemented with no controls in them to keep Illegals from getting state level benefits they have no right to and all Perry is saying to Illegals is, come on over, you're welcome!

So instead of actually fixing the issue, we get a bunch of nonsensical platitudes from Perry, and him actually making it worse by putting the welcome mat out.
58 posted on 08/21/2011 8:48:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Jabba the Nutt
If I believed Perry would do nothing to seal our borders, it would be a deal breaker for me too.

I don't believe that to be so, however. Why else did Perry try repeatedly to meet with President Obama about border control only to be rebuffed each time?

59 posted on 08/21/2011 8:49:00 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: TexMom7
He is against a fence because it will not work - and many agree especially here in Texas. I agree also. It would be a huge expense to put up a 1200+ mile fence and it would be a waste of money.

Says who?

And what do you mean will not work?

Would it be effective in lessoning the number of Illegal Immigrants sneaking across the border?

Would it make it harder having to get across a fence that is also patrolled by border patrol agents?

You betcha it would!
60 posted on 08/21/2011 8:51:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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