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Al Cardenas: Obama Will Be Defeated in 2012
Newsmax ^ | 20 Aug 2011 | Jim Meyers and Ashley Martella

Posted on 08/20/2011 5:58:18 PM PDT by Publius804

Al Cardenas, chairman of the influential American Conservative Union, tells Newsmax.TV that President Barack Obama will “without doubt” go down to defeat when he seeks re-election in 2012 -- no matter what the media are saying.

He also says Rep. Michele Bachmann will remain a force to be reckoned with in the Republican presidential nominating process, and says Sen. Marco Rubio could be a “difference maker” in the 2012 election if he is the GOP vice presidential candidate.

Cardenas is the former chairman of the Republican Party of Florida. His American Conservative Union is best known for sponsoring the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, Cardenas says his group will host all the Republican presidential candidates when it sponsors the Florida Conservative Political Action Conference next month.

American Conservative Union Chairman Al Cardenas says the 2012 Republican presidential nominee will be one of the more conservative candidates in the field. In this Newsmax.TV video, he predicts that President Barack Obama will be defeated and adds that Florida could be the state that decides the election outcome.

“It’s following the tradition of our annual CPAC in Washington. This is a regional event but we have all the presidential candidates coming. Senator Marco Rubio will be a favorite with the crowd. We have Ralph Reed, Grover Norquist, Ann Coulter.”

Cardenas is very enthusiastic about the 2012 presidential election. “Clearly the needle has moved to the right, and for a conservative that’s a great thing,” he says. “It’s amazing how the bandwidth has narrowed. There may be differences of opinion [among Republican candidates] but all within a much narrower range. Most candidates should be for a balanced budget amendment. Whoever becomes the nominee is going to be a conservative this time around.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; naturalborncitizen; obamapresidency
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 5:58:24 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

Al, there is still time left for you to give me this evening’s winning Lotto numbers.


2 posted on 08/20/2011 6:00:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Publius804

HUH,Bachmann ,Rubino Interesting!


3 posted on 08/20/2011 6:05:17 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Cheetahcat

Oop’s Rubio.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 6:06:10 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Publius804

We need to run against Obama as vigorously as if he has a 4% unemployment rate. We must not forget that we need to win more in the House and win the Senate.


5 posted on 08/20/2011 6:08:53 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Publius804

I predict the same thing.....with race riots after word comes he is going to lose.


6 posted on 08/20/2011 6:09:25 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Publius804

Rubio is not NBC and therefore cannot be VP...


7 posted on 08/20/2011 6:16:25 PM PDT by stockpirate (Is Perry an establishment Republican, New World Order Socialist, NWOS...let's verify)
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To: Red in Blue PA

My predictions are running in the 80%tile range. Zero will manufacture a crises and declare martial law before the elections, send congress home, and tell the judges they have been outsourced to military tribunals.


8 posted on 08/20/2011 6:18:02 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Red in Blue PA
I predict the same thing.....with race riots after word comes he is going to lose.

As long as they're burning down their own hoods I'm ok with it.

9 posted on 08/20/2011 6:22:33 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Publius804
Sen. Marco Rubio could be a “difference maker” in the 2012 election if he is the GOP vice presidential candidate.

When are these boobs going to realize a VP has to qualify as a Natural Born Citizen to be eligible to run for VP. Rubio is a Native Born Citizen...his parents were born in Cuba. Cuba was a self governing US Colony when they were born. That made them US Citizens...now the big question is did they renounce that citizenship when adults to become Cuban Citizens? IF they did not then he'd be a Natural Born Citizen...then in later years in the USA why would his Dad become a naturalized citizen?

10 posted on 08/20/2011 6:22:50 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Publius804

If Barry does lose in 2012, Americans better be prepared to lock and load. The freeloaders and union thugs will go on a rampage. Americans better know how to defend themselves.


11 posted on 08/20/2011 6:23:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: Publius804

It is my belief that Obama doesnt want to win. He’s done. He is a puppet


12 posted on 08/20/2011 6:27:06 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: stockpirate

Because there was no follow through on the NBC issue with Obama by our political leaders(especially GOP) and his expulsion from office, the democrats will say that precedent has been set for non-NBC Presidential officeholders and some RINOs will join the chorus; and, the Constitution will be totally shredded. Just wait and watch, when all is said and done, it will be proven that Obama is/was not a natural born ciitzen, but “precedent” was set for non-NBC officeholders.


13 posted on 08/20/2011 6:35:46 PM PDT by izzatzo (Palin2012, she's one of us.)
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To: izzatzo

Are you telling me...Obama is a No Birth Control advocate?


14 posted on 08/20/2011 6:37:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think next summer has the potential to be rather ugly.

But not as ugly as an Obama loss at the polls. Which could well be paired with some very bad economic scenarios.

All of which will be pointedly blamed on white people, conservatives especially. The liberals have worked overtime to set the stage for massive race riots and perhaps even a race war.

Any law abiding American that doesn’t own at least 2 firearms is ignoring reality.


15 posted on 08/20/2011 6:39:13 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Osage Orange

No, just using the initials for “natural-born citizen” another poster used; but, it is too bad that Obuma’s parents weren’t advised of birth control methods, birth control, in his case, might have saved the country a lot of its current grief.


16 posted on 08/20/2011 6:46:09 PM PDT by izzatzo (Palin2012, she's one of us.)
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To: izzatzo

Precedent HAS been set, but it isn’t what you think!

THE EXPRESS LANE TO NATURAL BORN CLARITY.

« MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
JUSTIA.COM CAUGHT RED HANDED HIDING REFERENCES TO MINOR v. HAPPERSETT [1874] IN PUBLISHED US SUPREME COURT OPINIONS. »

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/30/the-express-lane-to-natural-born-clarity/

ONLY NATIONAL LAW MAKES BINDING PRECEDENT.

The Supreme Court’s definition of the natural-born citizen clause in Minor is not common law, natural law, or international law. Vattel is not cited by the Supreme Court in Minor. And Vattel does not make US law. The Court’s holding in Minor is national law. It is United States law.

Those other sources may have been consulted, but when the Court held that Minor was a citizen under Article 2 Section 1 because she was born in the US of citizen parents, that definition became national law. Therefore, Minor supersedes all other sources on this point. It is a direct Constitutional interpretation and definition.

The other sources are not necessary. Relying upon them actually weakens the authority of Minor. There is no need for insecurity in the face of supporting Supreme Court precedent.

On November 22, 2008, Justice Scalia addressed the Federalist Society, stating:

“Natural law has nothing to do with originalism. I mean, I believe in natural law, but unfortunately I have no way to show or demonstrate that my understanding of it is the same as yours, or is the same as anybody else’s. I don’t enforce natural law. I suppose God enforces natural law. I enforce United States law. United States law should not contravene natural law, but that’s not my problem… I worry about, ‘What does this text mean?’ ” (Emphasis added.)

Earlier in that same speech, Justice Scalia stated:

“What has happened can only be compared to the naive belief that we used to have in the common law… Erie Railroad, you know, blows that all away… and we sort of chuckle at how naive the world could have been ever to have thought there was a common law…”

Do not get sidetracked by extraneous theoretical sources. We have United States Supreme Court precedent which defines a natural-born citizen – under Article 2 Section 1 – as a person born on US soil to parents who were citizens. Neither Obama nor McCain fit that definition. Neither are eligible to be President.

While some may argue McCain was eligible based upon a reference to Vattel, McCain simply does not fit the strict US Supreme Court definition of natural-born citizen as defined in Minor. To fashion an exception for McCain not found in the actual text from Minor is purely partisan and unfair.

Unlike others commenting on eligibility, I have always maintained that both McCain and Obama were not eligible. I brought my law suit all the way to the Supreme Court – prior to the election – arguing against both candidates’ eligibility. I was the first person to raise this issue with the American people. And I hold them both accountable for the damage done to our Constitution as a result of neither having more concern for the nation than they did for themselves.

Leo Donofrio, Esq.


17 posted on 08/20/2011 6:51:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

I’m not the one you should be worried about getting “sidetracked.” Direct your concern to those who occupy the three branches of the federal government.


18 posted on 08/20/2011 7:10:27 PM PDT by izzatzo (Palin2012, she's one of us.)
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To: Publius804

But, Rubio is not eligible under the Constitution to be Vice President. His parents were NOT citizens when he was born, therefore he is not a Natural Born Citizen. Same with Jindal of LA.


19 posted on 08/20/2011 7:13:04 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (Freedom is NOT free. Thank our military for your freedoms!)
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To: unixfox
I'm not OK with them burning down their own neighborhoods. Just who the hell do you think will wind up having to pay for it? Those jerks are not Joplin, MO residents. Their first reaction is to whine for money to rebuild what they themselves burned down. They are use to playing the victim. It is the first thing they learned from their parents and grandparents. To hell with the fact their great grandparents worked honestly for what they had, they will riot until they get part of “his stash” they didn't get the first time around.
20 posted on 08/20/2011 7:16:49 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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