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To: kabar

Remember 2008 was an executive level election, better turn out. Austria pulls off better than 90% on NON-executive level. A 63% when the presidency is on the line is PATHETIC. Anybody saying otherwise is simply lying to themselves.

Ex-girlfriends and college transcripts are not part of a thorough vetting, they’re stupid pointless side issues. He’s a freaking socialist, if we can’t beat him on that we deserve to lose.

Bush was an unpopular president, and managed to pull the win because Kerry’s campaign sucked. Obama is an unpopular president, if we replicate Kerry’s campaign, which is exactly what you want to do with those stupid pointless side issues, Obama will win.

You’re eagerness to throw insults has shown your own willful ignorance. I mentioned Brown, yes he’s post Reagan and Nixon. Isn’t wasn’t immigrants that put Brown in the first time, and the fact that he’s back probably immigrants either, it’s CA wanting to be on the same stupid path they were on in 1975.


271 posted on 08/21/2011 3:59:32 PM PDT by discostu (keep on keeping on)
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To: discostu
A 63% when the presidency is on the line is PATHETIC. Anybody saying otherwise is simply lying to themselves.

Why is it pathetic? Who is to blame? 89% of registered voters voted.

Austria pulls off better than 90% on NON-executive level.

WTF does Austria have to do with the US. It has a parliamentary system of government. It has a multiparty system. Does it make their results any more valid than ours? In the 2010 Presidential elections, only 53.6% of the people voted for President.

You seem obsessed with voter participation. Some believe that lower participation is actually a good thing because the results of an election are not going to change things significantly. The differences between the parties are not that extreme. It is a sign of stability and consensus. Obama and his radical agenda may be changing that perception. Still, the additional turnout of 5 million in 2008 consisted primarily of minorities who vote Democrat. Be careful what you wish for.

Ex-girlfriends and college transcripts are not part of a thorough vetting, they’re stupid pointless side issues. He’s a freaking socialist, if we can’t beat him on that we deserve to lose.

LOL. That's your opinion. The fact is that they do matter in our culture. The Democrats use it because it works. I provided you the Huffington Post spin on Perry's transcript, which they magically obtained from their sources. We still haven't gotten Obama's transcripts. Why?

You are one of those hopelessly naive Reps who don't understand how real politics are played in this country. We are in a battle for survival as a nation. Until we are prepared to confront the Dems on their turf, we are destined to lose in the long run. They are not going to change their tactics.

You’re eagerness to throw insults has shown your own willful ignorance. I mentioned Brown, yes he’s post Reagan and Nixon. Isn’t wasn’t immigrants that put Brown in the first time, and the fact that he’s back probably immigrants either, it’s CA wanting to be on the same stupid path they were on in 1975.

As I said, you haven't a clue as to how CA has changed politically. Since 1992, Reps have not won CA in Presidential elections. Obama won CA by 3.3 million votes topping Kerry's win of 1.2 million and Gore's 1.3 million. Clinton won by 1.5 and 1.3 million. Boxer won 52%-42% in 2010. Brown won 54%-41% in 2010, 50%-47% in 1974 and 56%-37% in 1978. And guess what, the Dems will win CA in 2012 and 2016 and 2020, etc.

You can ignore the demographic changes in CA, but they have changed electoral politics. I provided the link to Professor Gimpel's study that shows a direct correlation between immigration and voting patterns in the 25 and 50 largest counties in America.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million to 440 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.977 percent (2010 estimate), principally due to immigration.

87 percent of the 1.2 million legal immigrants entering annually are minorities as defined by the U.S. Government and almost all of the illegal aliens are minorities. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under in the U.S. will be classified as minorities and by 2039, half of the residents of this country will be minorities. Generally, immigrants and minorities vote predominantly for the Democrat Party. Hence, Democrats view immigration as a never-ending source of voters that will make them the permanent majority party.

274 posted on 08/21/2011 5:39:15 PM PDT by kabar
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