Why is it pathetic? People get the government they deserve. No one is prohibiting people from voting. Total turnout was about 60% of eligible voters. And as I indicated, a higher turnout would probably not help Reps.
Again I get it fine you’re just ignoring reality. Anybody that still thinks Obama isn’t an idiot won’t have their mind changed by anything.
I don't think he is an idiot. Far from it. He has the most radical agenda of any man to occupy the WH. He is intent on transforming this country into some sort of Marxist utopia. Obama knows exactly what he is doing. His EPA and recent back door amnesty Executive Orders are undermining the Constitution and usurping Congressional power. We are being ruled by executive fiat.
Since the Kennedy era all of politics is now personal destruction. Which has a lot to do with why half the eligible voters in this country don’t vote. People are sick of the lousy politicians and stupid campaigns. If you want to win in a way that really matters, that actually can effect change, you need to engage that 50%. Obama won with only 1/4 of the possible vote. Think about it. The non-voters are an unbeatable block. But they won’t vote for somebody that’s obsessed with stupid crap that happened 30 years ago, they won’t vote for mud slingers, and they won’t vote for the usual suspects.
You need to get better informed about American history. In terms of the politics of personal destruction, you can go back to Jefferson, Jackson, Lincloln, Cleveland, Harding, etc. just to name a few. In many ways, our past politics were much more violent and personal. We need to draw some bright lines between ourselves and the opposition. Moderates and moderation are what has created this mess. We offer voters the choice of Tweedledum and Tweddledee. Reagan said it best,
"A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers. I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”
Your way won’t result in a real win. Heck your way probably won’t result in any win at all. Like I pointed out to another poster: we got obsessed with Clinton’s past and the dems used that against us to get him re-elected; they got obsessed with Bush’s past and he got re-elected.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth saved Bush's ass in 2004 despite Rove and McCain denouncing them. And Bush barely squeaked by for an incumbent, wartime President in relatively good economic times.
The elections of 2010 with the Tea Party getting into the streets and at townhalls should be the template on how to win against the Dems. You must be organized, energized, and have core principles. We won because we employed many of the same tactics the Left uses against us.
We already know what happens when you obsess on the past. Even if we do somehow win the POTUS we still have the mess in Congress, a mess made by the way you want to win. There’s a reason so little actually changes when the White House changes hands, and a big part of it is that everybody in office is people who got their because their opponent couldn’t find enough dirt. Your way won’t make us not be CA, your way is WHY CA is the way it is.
CA is the way it is due to immigration, legal and illegal, that have changed the demographics of the state. One out of every four residents is foreign born and one out of three is Hispanic. This will be similar to the demographics of the entire country by 2050. States like Nevada, Colorado, and NM are in the process of turning purple to blue. Texas and AZ will eventually go the same way.
Immigration, Political Realignment, and the Demise of Republican Political Prospects
Ronald Reagan, in his famous 1975 speech at CPAC, said,
"Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness. I don't know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, "We must broaden the base of our party"-- when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents."
"It was a feeling that there was not a sufficient difference now between the parties that kept a majority of the voters away from the polls. When have we ever advocated a closed-door policy? Who has ever been barred from participating?"
" Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?"
FYI, typos happen, especially when typing less than an hour out of bed. If they bother you, just stop reading it.
LOL. That wasn't a typo. You didn't know the difference between "they're," and "their." Do you have your own definition of typo as well?
Most countries where people get to vote the turn out is over 90%. America’s turn out is pathetic, has been for a long time and continues to be. And remember our “60%” number is based on registered voters, not over 18 and not felons (the real eligible voter count). It’s our only real national embarrassment.
Obama is an idiot. At this point I’m not even sure he has an agenda. Mostly he just shows up.
I’m very well informed on American history, you need to read what I wrote and stop inserting your own content. I never said politics of personal destruction was new, I said it took over with Kennedy, that’s when the 2 step process was identified, and that’s when they figured out that if you bled enough voters from the other side you didn’t actually need to get people to vote for you. That’s what put us on the path of considering 60% (really under 50%) voter turn out to be good. That was a major sea change in how destructive politics works. It re-invented the game, and is documented as such in most books on the history of American politics.
That’s a good Reagan quote, what I especially like about it is that it shows why you’re wrong. “Obama’s grade were bad” is not a fundamental belief, it is not a principle, it is not a basis of conservatism. It’s just mud to fling, 30 year old mud at that, almost the exact same mud Kerry threw at Bush in 2004. Swift boaters helped Bush to be sure, but even before they showed up Kerry’s numbers were mediocre at best, those are the real facts.
The 2010 Tea Party campaigned on ideas and plans, not on Obama’s college transcripts. Another campaign like that would be great. Actually it’s exactly what I’m saying we need.
CA is the way it is because all the politicians do is yell and scream and insult. They’re so busy flinging mud nobody has actually tried to fix the state since Reagan stopped being governor. They spend a lot of time blaming each other, no time fixing it. They’re like a bad company.
It was a typo, just look at the rest of that post and previous posts. I learned to touch type 30 years ago, I don’t really supervise the fingers anymore, don’t really look at the output. Sometimes the fingers decide they’re going to put the wrong their there, which, according to the dictionary (an error in printed or typewritten matter resulting from striking the improper key of a keyboard) is a typo.