Posted on 08/19/2011 7:10:48 AM PDT by edcoil
It may not rank as the most compelling reason to curb greenhouse gases, but reducing our emissions might just save humanity from a pre-emptive alien attack, scientists claim.
Watching from afar, extraterrestrial beings might view changes in Earth's atmosphere as symptomatic of a civilisation growing out of control and take drastic action to keep us from becoming a more serious threat, the researchers explain.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
What, is someone talking about string theory again?
Alien 1: Hey everyone! I just got this white paper on AGW from Al Gore!
Alien 1: Let’s roll!
This sounds like Paul Krugman and Al Gore after spending about a week together watching Star Trek reruns
When you listen very closely to your bowl, you’ll hear, in squeaky voices sprinked with clicks and whistles, “see ya later suckers!”
Somewhere out there, Art Bell is smiling...
Alien 1: Zandar come here quick! Look through this telescope!
Alien 2: Holy Banxerdats! Are those deadly SUVs that they are driving??? I thought that Al Gore of the planet Genocide said he was getting SUVs banned all throughout the Universe. We should only be seeing electric golf carts on the road of this planet!!!!
Alien 1: Get me Al Gore on the phone!!!!!
Alien 1 (on phone): Al Gore you said that you had this all under control!
Al Gore: Those right-wingers have exposed me here on earth! They have turned the words climate change into a dirty word even in bipartisan company. What can I do?
Alien 1: Do nothing! We are sending armies of environmentally friendly war ships to do battle with the right-wingers of earth. We are producing more of the feather weapons you invented. Hopefully you did at least get those guns that they have banned right?
Alien 1: Al Gore? Are you there? I think he hung up.
They are getting desperate.
Now they will trump the whole “Aliens will kill us if we don’t control gorebull warming!” Angle.
These morons don’t realize that space itself is so vast and so full of resources that any alien civilization worth it’s salt will view being still living in a gravity well of a planet the same way we view the Amish.
The asteroids alone contain vast amounts of easily obtainable resources for any interplanetary civ, let alone one that is interstellar.
If aliens come to destroy us it would most likely be done to snuff out any potential competition. As is the case with how biology works by nature and the best model we have so far to attempt to model their potential motives.
Now if these lunatrons are putting this idea out there, I can’t help wondering if they have levers to fake such an event.
Unsure of the spelling.
Apparently, Aliens have already invaded Manhattan.
LOL! Strange, isnt it???
lunatrons .... love that!
Interesting well stated points. Thank you for your reply. I share your concerns.
“Now we know that this phrase was actually Klaatu Baracka nikto.”
ROFL!
lunatrons .... love that!
lunatrons .... love that!
LOL ^2
Get used to seeing more of this. It will continue and even increase until the Rapture and thats how they will explain the disappearance of so many people.
As a side note, isn't this the exact plot of the Day the Earth Stood Still?
NASA twitter disavowing report:
Some important points of clarification
So heres the thing. This isnt a NASA report. Its not work funded by NASA, nor is it work supported by NASA in other ways. It was just a fun paper written by a few friends, one of whom happens to have a NASA affiliation.
A while ago, a couple good friends of mine (Seth Baum and Jacob Haqq-Misra) approached me about a paper they were writing, and asked if I wanted to join them on it. The paper was a review of all the different proposed situations for contact with an alien civilization. I didnt think this was particularly important. After all, I consider the likelihood of contact with an alien civilization to be low. It certainly wasnt urgent, as I dont expect this to happen anytime soon. But
it sounded like fun and I decided to join in on it. So we wrote the paper, but I have to admit that Seth and Jacob put in the vast majority of the work on it. One of the scenarios we considered in the review was the possibility that an alien civilization would contact us because they were concerned about the exponential growth of our civilization, as evidenced by climate change. This isnt an entirely new idea; remember, this was a review effort. Indeed, Keanu Reaves recently played a similar alien in the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. There were lots of other ideas we reviewed, but this was probably the most provocative.
Well, the paper came out a couple months ago. Today, for some reason, The Guardian picked it up, publishing an article about it with the following title: Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientist: Rising greenhouse emissions may tip off aliens that we are a rapidly expanding threat, warns a report for NASA. That then was picked up by The Drudge Report, with this headline:
NASA REPORT: Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilizations
UH OH. Now that is a bit problematic.
So heres the deal, folks. Yes, I work at NASA. Its also true that I work at NASA Headquarters. But I am not a civil servant
just a lowly postdoc. More importantly, this paper has nothing to do with my work there. I wasnt funded for it, nor did I spend any of my time at work or any resources provided to me by NASA to participate in this effort. There are at least a hundred more important and urgent things to be done on any given work day than speculate on the different scenarios for contact with alien civilizations
However, in my free time (what precious little I have), I didnt mind working on stuff like this every once in a while. Why? Well, because Im a geek and stuff like this is fun to think about. Unfortunately, there is not enough time for fun. Indeed, I felt guilty at times because this has led to a lack of effort on my part in my interactions with Seth and Jacob. Beyond adding some comments here or there, I did very little for the paper.
But I do admit to making a horrible mistake. It was an honest one, and a naive one
but it was a mistake nonetheless. I should not have listed my affiliation as NASA Headquarters. I did so because that is my current academic affiliation. But when I did so I did not realize the full implications that has. Im deeply sorry for that, but it was a mistake born our of carelessness and inexperience and nothing more. I will do what I can to rectify this, including distributing this post to the Guardian, Drudge, and NASA Watch. Please help me spread this post to the other places you may see the article inaccurately attributed to NASA.
One last thing: I stand by the analysis in the paper. Is such a scenario likely? I dont think so. But its one of a myriad of possible (albeit unlikely) scenarios, and the point of the paper was to review them. But remember - and this is key - its me standing for the paper
not the full weight of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. For anything I have done to mis-convey that to those covering this story, to the public, or to the fine employees of NASA, I apologize.
UPDATE/ADDENDUM: If anyone has further questions about the paper itself, I direct you to contact my good friend and colleague, Seth Baum. Seth is the first and corresponding author on the manuscript, so all queries should first be directed to him.
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