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To: Rooivalk
I'm sorry , you're right . I read what I wrote and it came out wrong. what I meant to say was that they may have better equipment than we think they have, not that they have better equipment than we have. However if you look at what they are willing to do to improve and what we're doing as far as cutbacks on expenditures in order to pay off social security fake disability checks to porch monkeys.....well there you have it. Pay for crucifixes in urine or R&D. Boondoggle to pay off unions or retirement for military, etc....

Yeah, I know their subs are sh#t compared to ours, but gee-whiz one just happened to pop up right in the middle of an aircraft carriers group during one of our military maneuvers. .

The subs, missiles and even people will have or might have the only advantage of being numerically superior. In other words like the Germans had Tiger tanks, but our Shermans or better yet the crappy Russian tanks just flat out outnumbered them and overwhelmed them. Similar to the suicide frontal assaults of the Japanese.

Now the other point isn't that I think China or anybody would "win", but just how much would we lose in order to fight a military war.

You seem to understand what I'm talking about so my point is that of Clausewitz..... by the time military actions start, the state of war has existed and the outcome should not be questionable. War is just an extension of the political.

As far as missiles, all it takes is one "lucky" one to put the hurt on us. Look at how the press and everybody carried on about casualties during Bush's term..... they of course never mention them with our current TOFUS... but how do you think mom and pop would react to something as tragic and accidental and as "unlucky" as CLICK ON THIS...

If it were a Republican president when this happened, my gawd... we'd have to offer the human sacrifice of a Christian Republican politician in order to satisfy the quislings we have in the democrat party.

I think we've been probed and tested. Our logistics and temperament in conflicts near and far show that, we fight... but maybe not so much.

81 posted on 08/21/2011 3:36:54 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Like you say and I agree the United States is in deplorable shape with the many problems, social problems, we face. But America is light years ahead of whoever is in second place. I am doing my share and plan to do more to help this country retain its greatness. This is my home and nothing is more important than home


85 posted on 08/21/2011 4:35:50 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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