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To: Dick Vomer
Do not forget that the Chinese are TOTALLY dependent upon maritime shipping of the vital resources that make their society run. And they have NO navy to prevent disruptions of their vital sea lanes.

If China tries to mess with America we could totally shutdown the flow of African oil that they depend upon. What would China do then? And even if they attempt to bully Vietnam or India, like they are doing now,those smaller powers could shut China down in a hurry. Imagine if the tiny submarine fleet of Vietnam or India decided to plant mines off the harbors on the Chinese east coast. Even just three Chinese ports put out of action by the threat of mines would cripple China severely. Again what would China do but complain loudly? They have no minesweeping capability to speak of.

By the time the riots were raging in China because they could not feed their people and their cheap imports were piling up at the docks China would be on its knees.

And that is just for starters
69 posted on 08/19/2011 11:02:29 AM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk
Do not forget that the Chinese are TOTALLY dependent upon maritime shipping of the vital resources that make their society run. And they have NO navy to prevent disruptions of their vital sea lanes.

If China tries to mess with America we could totally shutdown the flow of African oil that they depend upon. What would China do then? And even if they attempt to bully Vietnam or India, like they are doing now,those smaller powers could shut China down in a hurry. Imagine if the tiny submarine fleet of Vietnam or India decided to plant mines off the harbors on the Chinese east coast. Even just three Chinese ports put out of action by the threat of mines would cripple China severely. Again what would China do but complain loudly? They have no minesweeping capability to speak of.

By the time the riots were raging in China because they could not feed their people and their cheap imports were piling up at the docks China would be on its knees.

And that is just for starters

Firstly, I didn't forget about China's need for overseas oil, just as I didn't forget about our need for overseas oil. Their Navy might not have to go toe to toe with us, but has offensive capabilities that might surprise us... better subs, anti-carrier missiles, EMP weapons as well as software/electronic warfare.

I do know that Russia has agreements to provide several hundred thousand barrels of oil daily and there is no ocean between them.

Secondly and this is more important, how are we going to "shut down" the oil flow from other Asian or Persian countries. Iran, Iraq, Singapore and other South China Seas areas of oil. China has some of the largest coal deposits on earth and guess what????? They don't have the EPA handcuffing them.

Their population of over 1 billion and standing army of over 2 million aren't going to be allowed to "protest" or "sue" the government over austerity measures. Imagine all the porch monkeys and parasites in this country if the monthly check didn't come and they were made to actually work for some cash.

Finally, why would India, Vietnam or Singapore side with us in a conflict? If one of them mined their ports, what do you think China's response would be? Talk? not likely and everybody is figuring it out.

Why would you think that China would ever fight an open war that allows us to overwhelm their numbers with our technology. Pour half a million Chinese at the border of North Korea, invade Taiwan or blockade it, threaten India or Vietnam by massing troops on their northern border. What are WE going to do? Send troops to fight and die in a ground war in Asia .......again? bwahahahahahaha nope. Never going to happen. Nuke them? yeah, right..... with the weak sisters we have running the show trying to figure out the decor for female quarters on subs, how to invite to homosexuals to the Marine Corps Ball and who gets to "lead"..... which mullah is going to be the main chaplain for the armed forces, while the bible is considered anathema....

We're not going to kick anybody's ass.

We may even "win" a war, but it will take a near death response while we lose hundreds of thousands of men. Our country has been screwed by the anti-capitalist, communist loving, warriors that were breast fed on the Communist Manifesto and the corruption of our leaders. Lost Faith..... no semper fidelis here.... just quislings, cowards and thieves in BOTH parties.

72 posted on 08/19/2011 11:21:21 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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