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Governor Palin Used Her Executive Authority to Make Government Smaller and More Ethical
C4P ^ | 8/18/11 | Whitney Pritcher

Posted on 08/18/2011 6:42:04 AM PDT by Anamnesis

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To: Old Retired Army Guy
"I think it is time to quit talking about Sarah Palin. Looks like Conservatives need to come together for Rick Perry...."

There is blood in the water, and it is way too early to talk about settling on a single candidate. Christie, Ryan, Palin all may still get in, I wouldn't be surprised to see others yet. Obama is drowning. Just let him flail. Let the country just get completely sick of the socialist crap.

Reagan didn't get in until the last week of November (and THAT was a big field of candidates as well, for the same reason--an incompetent incumbent).

41 posted on 08/18/2011 8:08:48 AM PDT by cookcounty (Mighty Obama: "Hey, relax. I'm fittin' to commence to start to begin to write a plan!")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I have been 100% behind Palin forever.

Somehow I don't believe you, and I don't think most people that read your posts believe you either.
42 posted on 08/18/2011 8:08:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Virginia Ridgerunner; onyx
It's somehow “ethical” to take oil company profits and “redistribute” them to the people?

Since the Trans-Alaska Pipeline began pumping oil in 1977, Alaska has been collecting royalties and taxes from oil companies and "redistributing" them to the people. Have you always been against this or are you just unhappy that Palin was doing it?

43 posted on 08/18/2011 8:09:14 AM PDT by Al B. ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Anamnesis

Does anybody have an update on the progress of AGIA and the Trans-Canada NG pipeline?


44 posted on 08/18/2011 8:13:01 AM PDT by cookcounty (Mighty Obama: "Hey, relax. I'm fittin' to commence to start to begin to write a plan!")
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To: ChurtleDawg
"so, the citizens of alaska “collectively” own the natural resources?

If the resources are on state land then yes. You got a problem with the citizens of the state owning the resources on state land? If not the citizens then who should own said resources?

45 posted on 08/18/2011 8:13:12 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: ChurtleDawg

On second thought, my eagerness to point out the fact that socialism requires violence and coercion seems to have obscured a good look at the Alaska Constitution.

But we can say Palin did a very good job as an Alaskan Constitutionalist.


47 posted on 08/18/2011 8:13:58 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; 9YearLurker
But today I felt the need to being some sanity onto the Palin boards by pointing out that even though I support her and want her to run, she isn’t Jesus Christ, she isn’t perfect.

With that one statement, you've disproved your stated support of Sarah, and proven your lack of objectivity.
48 posted on 08/18/2011 8:14:25 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: TexasFreeper2009; 9YearLurker; onyx; Al B.
It's somehow “ethical” to take oil company profits and “redistribute” them to the people?

1. The Property, the Oil, belongs to Alaskans, by Law, by the State Constituion
2. The Governor is the CEO of the State and answers to the Stockholders, the people of Alaska.
3. The Governor has a fidiciary duty to manage the resources, the property, of the people in the manner that most profits the owners, the People of Alaska.
4. The Oil companies are leasing the Property of the People of Alaskas from the People of Alaska.
5. The Governor honored her fidiciary duty to the People of Alaska by getting the best deal possible that provided the highest level of profit to the owners of the Property (Oil).
6. The Profits went back to the stockholders of the company (i.e. the State of Alaska) as they should in any CAPITALIST endeavor


Now TeasFreeper2009, please show me where there was a hint of socialism in this capitalist endeavor?!
49 posted on 08/18/2011 8:19:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

This is 100% totally stupid and downright childish. There isn’t a single Republican running that isn’t FAR preferable to Obama. You must not be paying attention to what is happening to the economy of this country. Evidently, no one in your family is out of work.


50 posted on 08/18/2011 8:19:54 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: reasonisfaith

but the definition of socialism, in the most pure form, is collective ownership. It can be voluntary, like a commune or an Israeli kibbutz.

the population of alaska getting paid by the oil companies, in an equal amount per person, without regard to how much property is owned or how much taxes were paid by that person is socialistic. The very notion of “collective ownership” is socialism. In pure capitalism, the oil company would be the owner of whatever oil it drills, and the profits made would be shared among the shareholders.


51 posted on 08/18/2011 8:19:58 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: SoConPubbie; TexasFreeper2009; 9YearLurker; onyx; Al B.
It's somehow “ethical” to take oil company profits and “redistribute” them to the people?

1. The Property, the Oil, belongs to Alaskans, by Law, by the State Constituion
2. The Governor is the CEO of the State and answers to the Stockholders, the people of Alaska.
3. The Governor has a fidiciary duty to manage the resources, the property, of the people in the manner that most profits the owners, the People of Alaska.
4. The Oil companies are leasing the Property of the People of Alaskas from the People of Alaska.
5. The Governor honored her fidiciary duty to the People of Alaska by getting the best deal possible that provided the highest level of profit to the owners(Citizens of ALaska) of the Property (Oil).
6. The Profits went back to the stockholders(Citizens of Alaska) of the company (i.e. the State of Alaska) as they should in any CAPITALIST endeavor
52 posted on 08/18/2011 8:23:23 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: ChurtleDawg; reasonisfaith
In pure capitalism, the oil company would be the owner of whatever oil it drills, and the profits made would be shared among the shareholders.

You had a small point up to here, and then your logic simply fell apart.

Capitalism does not require an Oil Company to be the owner of whatever oil it drills, anybody can be the owner of that resource.
53 posted on 08/18/2011 8:25:20 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Anamnesis
Governor Palin Used Her Executive Authority to Make Government Smaller and More Ethical

Than cinches it!

With these two major strikes against her she will never get a liberal vote.


54 posted on 08/18/2011 8:25:38 AM PDT by Iron Munro (One Trillion seconds = 31,709.79 YEARS / One Trillion dollars = A 3 Month Obama Spending Spree)
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To: ChurtleDawg

“but the definition of socialism, in the most pure form, is collective ownership. It can be voluntary, like a commune or an Israeli kibbutz.”

I agree, but for the sake of holding socialist ideology accountable, let’s acknowledge that when socialism is law it is not voluntary.


55 posted on 08/18/2011 8:28:05 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: Anamnesis

She made it so ethical that the liberals forced her out of her job due to all the ethics complaints. Hopefully, next time she’ll make it a little tougher to file grievances so her legal bills won’t go through the roof.


56 posted on 08/18/2011 8:31:04 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: ChurtleDawg

And it seems Article VIII of the Alaska Constitution doesn’t respect socialism to the extent that it grants ownership to individuals.

That is, every citizen has an idividual right to ownership, which is in direct opposition to the spirit of socialism.


57 posted on 08/18/2011 8:32:17 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Very few of the Palin supporters here hate Perry. Calling Perry out on his record is not engaging in baseless personal attacks.


58 posted on 08/18/2011 8:50:45 AM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
There isn’t a single Republican running that isn’t FAR preferable to Obama.

Yeah, so what does that matter? (And, by the way, I disagree -- Romney is as bad as Obama because on most key positions, he's little different and would lend the stamp of Republican approval to those disasters.)

We're in a deep, deep hole right now, and simply being better than Obama isn't going to cut it. We need someone who isn't afraid to point out the real problems and do what it takes to solve them. Someone with a track record of taking on entrenched interests and winning.

That person isn't Bachmann or Perry or Paul, or any of the other dozen dwarves currently running. They either don't have the will or the track record. Or both.

Settling for just "not Obama" merely changes who's at the helm of the Titanic after it's already hit the iceberg.

59 posted on 08/18/2011 9:15:13 AM PDT by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“I think it is time to quit talking about Sarah Palin. Looks like Conservatives need to come together for Rick Perry as he is the locical person to take the nomination from Romney and beat Obama, which is the ultimate objective.”

I think you are sadly mistaken. One of us is wrong.


60 posted on 08/18/2011 9:28:33 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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