Posted on 08/15/2011 7:09:06 AM PDT by thackney
... means hundreds of new miles of pipeline as part of a larger, traditional cross-country network that already extends through Pennsylvania and its neighboring states, as well as dozens of new or upgraded compression stations to force more gas through the buried pipes.
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Combined, more than a dozen projects proposed or already under construction would have the capacity to move an additional 4 billion cubic feet of natural gas a day one-third of what analysts for Colorado-based Bentek Energy say is the average daily demand in the northeastern United States.
... about 3 billion cubic feet (bcf) per day of gas is flowing from the Marcellus Shale, the nations largest-known natural gas reservoir. Production is rising quickly as crews busily drill more wells, and the flow should easily reach 7 bcf or 8 bcf per day in the next five years
Drill baby drill !
The benefits to NYS and Pennsylvania would be phenominal !
I’m sure Governor Cuomo will give the word to green light this with all undue haste.
Errr, wait, did I just say that ?
The liberals are killing our country. They must be DESTROYED by every LEGAL means. “Minnesota nice” should stay in Minnesota. The rest of us need to be vehemently anti-liberal (code word: progressive)
I’ve been doing research on fracking. I’m completely in support of drilling for our own oil and gas, however, there are some issues with fracking that no one is talking about (except the fruit loop environmentalists.)
The problem with fracking is that there is a chance that the chemicals they use in the slurry (which the drillers do not disclose) can contaminate the aquifers. What happens when you lease your land to the drillers and your water supply gets contaminated. Your land is now useless and no one compensates you for the loss. Not the corporation, not the government.
Cuomo just flipped his position on fracking to support it. Now when a leftist pig like him supports this, I am very suspect of his motives. Sounds like a good payoff was begotten.
:: The problem with fracking is that there is a chance that the chemicals they use in the slurry (which the drillers do not disclose) can contaminate the aquifers ::
There is also a chance that if global temperatures rise too much that all the arctic ice will melt and the cute, cuddly polar bears will all drown.
Use care in your due diligence...
Code words my a$$!!! Liberals, progressives, environmentalist, communists, Marxists, whatever. They all smell like Obama to me!!
I’ve been doing my due diligence based on science and not global warming hype.
If drillers use water to frack, there is no issue, but when they inject chemicals such as sand and other chemicals (possibly containing benzyne) am I to accept that no harm can come to the water supply?
The government has a long history of identifying false problems and then stepping in to solve those problems that didn’t need solving.
You need to do more research. Learn the depth of the formation and where the depth of your aquifer is. There is thousands of feet of rock in between.
Fracturing is done within the shale. It does not pierce the cap rock formation or the many other layers of rock between the aquifer and the gas formation.
If gas operators were breaking through the cap rock and other formations, they would be loosing the gas out of the reservoir field. This is not what is going on.
Look here for some information:
http://www.halliburton.com/public/projects/pubsdata/hydraulic_fracturing/fracturing_101.html#
I’ve heard talk about a gas to liquid project but I don’t really understand what that means. Could you explain it?
I do not know of a new gas to liquid project in the US.
There is a long running pilot plant in Alaska that converts natural gas to liquids for shipment to Japan, but it is rather small and the process was never used for any other larger facilities.
Shell has come up with a process to make diesel, kerosene and naphtha from Natural Gas. They have built their second facility using this process in Qatar. Note that naphtha is a significant component of gasoline.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2731066/posts
They still need better economics to make this pay in the US.
The only contamination has come from surface spills. And both NY and PA have tightened their regulation of fracking.
The enviros hate shale gas because it is a barrier to their dream of using high energy costs to drive Americans out of suburbs and back into the cities. So they have made up anti-fracking lies and propaganda wholesale.
Haliburton decided to use things from the FDA’s GRAS (generally accepted as safe) list - like vinegar - for their fracking. In PA, the companies are required to disclose what they are using for fracking. And sand - - sand is a chemical you are worried about????
The sand is needed to prop open the tiny cracks created by
fracking. The vinegar or other acid is needed to keep the calcium or lime in the water from clogging up the tiny openings.
Folks near well drilling operations need to test their wells prior to any drilling. The test needed costs about $300 and will give baseline readings for various natural substances in your water. A cheap test for total dissolved solids and e coli won’t cut it.
If you have baseline tests or live withing 1,000 feet of a well, any post drilling water issues will be fixed by the drilling company under PA law currently.
First off...the oil/gas is trapped in a SHALE which is basically impermeable.
2. The shale layer is down several miles deep....
3. Most of the "chemicals" (water, sand, lubricants, glass beads etc) are pumped out and recycled.
So the chances of surface contamination are zero.
I completely agree with you on the left’s agenda on energy. They’d love to see everyone ride bikes like the Chinese or driving a Prius.
I’m hearing lots of conflicting information coming from both sides. I don’t trust the DEC to look out for me, nor do I fully trust a mining company to be completely upfront about safety—think BP Gulf oil disaster. There is potentially a boat load of money to be made from these reserves. I’m all for exploring and cultivating—not only to keep energy costs down, but to stick it to the rest of the gas and oil producing countries that we import from.
http://eng.obozrevatel.com/ukraine-and-the-world/americans-interested-in-lng-terminal-project.htm
"Chance" is like flipping a coin and having it land on its edge
Here's our Grate Reader in decision making process to show what that looks like:
with the Senior Advisers (old balding white geezers).....
Heads......Ragu Beef
Tails.......Lobster
and my chance of getting re-elected if the coin lands on its edge....OK guys....
I believe other posters have explained why I posted what I did to you.
Nutshell: You’re using flawed (agenda-ized) research.
I don’t think that they are talking about LNG, though. Like Thackney said, gas is being turned into an alternative form of diesel fuel in Qatar and Africa. I think this is what they are considering.
Alaska crude is diminishing quickly. The country needs to either open up other areas of Alaska to drilling (Obama shut them down) or find other sources of fuel.
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