Skip to comments.English Historian Blames Black Culture for Riots
Posted on 08/13/2011 1:43:24 PM PDT by reaganaut1
During a televised discussion of the past weeks riots in England on Friday night, a prominent English historian sparked outrage by insisting that black, Afro-Caribbean culture was to blame for the mayhem and looting, even when the rioters were white.
David Starkey, who has presented several documentaries on the Tudor period, said during a BBC debate: the problem is that the whites have become black a particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic gangster culture has become the fashion and black and white, boy and girl, operate in this language together; this language, which is wholly false, which is a Jamaican patois, thats been intruded in England, and this is why so many of us have this sense of literally a foreign country.
Asked if he was saying that the prophecy of Enoch Powell an English politician who claimed in a speech in 1968 that immigration would eventually mean, the black man will have the whip hand over the white man in Britain had come true, Mr. Starkey replied: Thats not true. He added, its not skin color, its cultural.
The historian then sought to illustrate his point by referring to the way one of Londons leading black politicians, David Lammy, speaks. Listen to David Lammy, Mr. Starkey said, an archetypical, successful black man: if you turned the screen off, so that you were listening to him on radio, youd think he was white.
The other participants in the debate quickly objected to Mr. Starkeys remarks. Owen Jones, the author of a book about working class culture in Britain, told the historian: Its utterly outrageous, obviously, what youre saying. What youre doing is youre equating black culture with criminality.
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As you can see, truth hurts.
I’m sure the New York Slimes is having a hissy fit over this.
I can’t speak for England but in America, “black culture” was an artificial creation to benefit the democrats.
Looking back to the 30s, 40s, and 50s, black culture was pretty much indistinguishable from the rest of American culture. In the case of black conservatives, they’re still regular old Americans.
Yeah, I think it's the commie culture more than the "black culture."
Is it not hilarious that the NYT is writing about this and yet, when it came to the Tea Party, and blacks and hispanics making up some of those Tea Party “crowds”, they - the Tea Party - were labeled racists..... =.=
Even if there were an equal number of white and black rioters — blacks would be about 40 times over-represented, based on Britain’s demographics.
I disagree with this guy. Its not “black culture.” West Indian blacks and many African blacks are a hell of a lot more industrious, law-abiding and civic-minded than a number of Welfare case whites. Its clear that when whites buy into the entitlement culture, they are lazy and disrespectful. We see examples in Britain. A lot of the rioters are white. Then we see the example of the black woman who turned in her daughter because it was the right thing to do. The reason this can be mistaken for “black culture” is because blacks come into contact with the Welfare state the most.
There probably as many whites with the gansta mentality as Blacks.
I heard a guy this Am (British) He said From Blair to present the Welfare entitlement mentality has destroyed British Culture. He said that there are a great number of Brits that have not had a job in 20 years and their children have grow up to expect EVERYTHING to be provided for by the GOV. He also blamed the multiculturalism that has destroyed British Society.
No National identity or values.
It is going to take a harsh pulling out the Socialist Society by the roots. These mobs of lazy leaches will not take it sitting down. count on it.
“I cant speak for England but in America, black culture was an artificial creation to benefit the democrats.”
Yep, and is there anything funnier than Mr. Obama, educated at an expensive private high school, Columbia, and Harvard, pretend to speak in a Southern negro dialect? What an insult to every American of whatever color, well-educated, or never having had the opportunity to have a good education! You’re not one of us, Barack.
You can thank the cultural Marxists for destroying Western culture. It's what they set out to do.
This precisely what we are going to see here in the US very soon. Most likely after the election and especially if a Republican wins. Unfortunate but there can be no doubt it is coming to our cities once the money is gone.
“Looking back to the 30s, 40s, and 50s, black culture was pretty much indistinguishable from the rest of American culture.”
I have heard - but not seen verified - that during the period you mention church affiliations were higher and out of wedlock birth statistics were actually lower in the black population compared to the US population as a whole.
Then came The Great Society, War on Poverty, War on Drugs and Sexual Revolution.
It’s only the intrenched welfare blacks that are the problem. When a person gives up on life and accepts handouts, he is no longer a human being, capable of incredible achievement. Liberalism destroyed this country and I don’t think there is a “going back.” I have the utmost respect for black people along with anyone else who receives an education and contributes to the common good of our society. Everyone else, regardless of color, is a parasite deserving of extinction.
According to my friends who work in high schools around the US, gangsta hiphop is a major problem and they can’t figure out how to solve it.
You speak PC very, very well!
Have the larger cities in England turned into chocolate cities?
I knew an old southern black woman from my childhood till she passed away when I was in my mid 30s. She always treated me as if I were her own son.
One of her sons was killed in a gang thing and the other was in prison pretty much forever but I never heard Pearl blame whites. She just said her sons got “Mixed up an ruint”.
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